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Hazrat Umar's implementation of Triple Talaaq.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Hazrat Umar's implementation of Triple Talaaq. Reply with quote

As-salaam alay kum brothers and sisters,

Can anyone please provide me reasons that why Hazrat Umar (the second caliph) changed the rulings on talaaq in his second year of khilaafat? Is this even historically correct? I know the hadith books suggest that Umar started enforcing Triple Talaaq as binding since people were getting negligent about executing divorce properly.

When I think about this issue (and if the hadith or history is correct on attributing this to Hazrat Umar), I ponder why he went against the clearly outlined procedure of Talaaq/Divorce in Quran and implemented the pre-islamic method of instant divorce? The noted Egyptian scholar Haykal said in one of his books that Hazrat Umar did it due to certain specific circumstances. Even Allama GA Perwez mentioned briefly this subject but I was unable to find his explanation that whether Umar really did it and why or is it just falsely attributed to him by our persian imams.

Can someone please shed some light on this issue. And if Umar did really implement this rule then is there any evidence that it was later changed back (revoked) to the original Quranic way of divorce either in his lifetime or by later caliphs like Hazrat Ali (as even Shias do not treat triple divorce as valid or binding)?

Thank you.
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Arnold Yasin Mol

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Do you really believe the Sahaba went against the Quran? While the Quran says that only Islam will be accepted from you? While Allah says He has perfected the Deen for us? You believe the Sahaba doubted that?

These are clear lies against the Sahaba. I will quote the Quran later.
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Arnold Yasin Mol

PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what the Quran says about the Sahaba:

8:72 Those who believed, emigrated, and strove with their possessions and lives in the Cause of Allah, as well as those who hosted them and supported them (in Madinah), are close protecting friends of one another.

8:74 Those who believed and emigrated, and strove in the Cause of Allah, and those who hosted them and supported them, are True believers. For them is protection of forgiveness and honorable provision.

8:63 Allah has brought together the hearts of the believers. If you (O Messenger) had spent all that is in the earth, you could not have produced that affection, but Allah has done it. (The Divine Ideology has attuned the believers). Surely, He is Almighty, Wise.

9:100 And the first to lead the way are the emigrants (from Makkah), their hosts who sheltered them (in Madinah), and those who followed them in goodness, Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him. He has made ready for them Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. This is the Supreme Triumph.

9:117 Allah is Kind to the Prophet, the emigrants and those who hosted them. The support came in difficult times. That is when the hearts of some of them slightly wavered. Allah turned to them in Mercy. He is Compassionate and Kind to them.

48:18 Indeed, Allah was pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance unto you (O Messenger) under that shady tree. For, He knew what was in their hearts, and so He sent down upon them inner peace, and rewarded them by opening the gates to a quick Victory. (48:10).

48:29 Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger. And those who are with him are stern towards the rejecters, but full of compassion towards one another. You see them bowing, adoring, as they seek Allah’s Bounty and Acceptance. Their signs (of belief) are on their faces, the effects of adoration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel. Like a seed that brings forth its shoot, and then strengthens it, so that it grows thick, and then stands firm on its own stem, delighting those who have sown it. Consequently, it fills the rejecters with rage at them. But unto those who may yet attain belief and do works that help others, Allah promises forgiveness and Immense Reward.

59:8 And it is for the poor refugees who have been expelled from their homelands and their property. And they seek Allah’s Bounty and Approval, and support Allah and His Messenger. It is they, they who are true to their faith.

59:9 Also those who resided in the city (Madinah) before them and attained faith. They love those who immigrated to them, and find no hesitation in their hearts in helping them. But rather give them preference over themselves, even though poverty be their own lot. And whoever is saved from greediness of the heart, such are the ones who truly prosper.

59:10 And those who come after the first immigrants, say, "Our Lord! Forgive us and our brethren who came into Faith before us, and let not be any malice in our hearts toward those who believe. Our Lord! Verily, You are Compassionate, Merciful."

57:10 And why should you not spend in the Cause of Allah when to Allah belongs the heritage of the heavens and the earth? Those who spend and fight before the victory are not at the same level as the rest of you. They have a greater rank than those who spend and fight after the victory. Unto each Allah has promised good. He is Aware of what you do.

And this is what the Quran says about following it:

9:33 He it is Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the True Religion (DEEN = The System of Life), that He may cause it to prevail over all religions and systems of life, even though the idolaters may detest it. (9:31-33, 14:48, 18:48, 48:28, 61:9).

They were warned in the Quran:

3:149 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! If you heed the overt or covert rejecters of the Divine System, they will make you turn back on your heels, such that you will topple down as losers. (The Messenger will not be among you forever 3:144).

10:95 (Those who consider Our Revelations as intrinsic inspiration, in fact deny them.) Be not of those who deny Our Revelations and become losers.

And the Quran is the only Law:

16:116 Do not keep uttering in falsehood, "This is lawful and this is unlawful”, thus inventing lies against Allah. Those who fabricate lies against Allah, fail to prosper in their “Self”.
16:117 A brief enjoyment, but grievous suffering in the long run!

6:113 Those who love quick gains and neglect the long-term benefits and the Hereafter, are parties to such fabrications. Let them delight in it and let them earn from it what they may.
6:114 Say, “Shall I seek for Judge and Ruler someone other than Allah? He it is Who has revealed this Book, well expounded in detail for you.” Those whom We have given the Book know that this is revealed in Truth from your Lord. Be not among those who argue for the sake of argument.

6:115 Perfected is the Word of your Lord in Truth and Justice. None can change His Words and His Laws. This announcement comes to you from the Profound Hearer, the Knower.
6:116 (People will confront you with what the majority is doing.) Now if you pay heed to, or get intimidated by majority of those who live on earth, they will lead you astray from Allah’s Way. Most of the people follow nothing but conjecture and they only live by guesswork.
6:117 Only your Lord (shows the Right Path and) knows best those who stray and those who are rightly guided.

All the Khalifa's were told to:

4:105 We have sent down the Book to you (O Prophet) in Absolute Truth. Rule and judge among people according to what Allah has shown you (in this Revelation). You shall not advocate for those who are known to have violated their pledges and trusts and betrayed the works assigned to them.

Ok, so what do you believe? The Quran or history reports written down 200 years later? The Quran says the Sahaba were true believers, and they were told in the Quran to use only the Quran as Law and to not deviate from it. Thus it is impossible they have deviated from it.

These reports are just clear lies on the honourable Followers of the Prophet. Just to make other people go astray and follow man-made laws. Why are people so easily deviated........
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