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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: 9:5 and 9:36 Reply with quote

a person argued it with someone who was favouring Quran only as source of guidance , he questioned :
"The Quran mentions muslims are forbidden to fight in the four sacred months (9:5, 9:36). If the Quran alone contains all guidance, then I request you to find me in the Quran the names of these four months without relying on ANY external resource."
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Lets learn together. Reply with quote

AOA,

This person's question is inaccurate,

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he questiones :
"The Quran mentions Muslims are forbidden to fight in the four sacred months (9:5, 9:36). If the Quran alone contains all guidance, then I request you to find me in the Quran the names of these four months without relying on ANY external resource."

Al-Quran does not mentions any sacred four months "not at least in above two verses" It describes a situation where some group of people Or son to the father says “How could you worship idols as gods? I see you and your people are in obvious error.”6:74.

then they are persecuted and they must fight back to defend , they don't have to stop, until attacks on them have, & that only happens when they have upper hand, now they say live if you want to in peace, otherwise period of reconciliation is 4 months. after which ............................etc, etc.

And the second instance is more complicated, broad, and a way of deception, cheating the system, defying peace treaty, a loop hole by counting their way and not they way it out to be. by reading the whole series matter will be cleared easily.

I hope it helps.

Nadir Hussain
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Nadir,

Please try to talk straight to the point. The Quran makes the four sacred months very clear.

9:3 And a proclamation from God and His Messenger is herewith made to all mankind on this day of the Greatest Pilgrimage (9th day of the 12th lunar month, Zil-Hajjah). God disowns the idolaters, and so does His Messenger. So, if you repent, it will be better for you. But if you turn away from repentance, then know that you cannot escape God. (O Messenger) give tiding of an awful retribution to those who are bent upon opposing the truth,

9:4 Except those idolaters with whom you have a treaty and they have not subsequently failed you, nor have they helped others against you. You shall fulfill your treaty with them until their term. God loves those who are mindful of His laws.

[The greatest Pilgrimage with the exalted Prophet present makes it clear that the four sacred months of peace begin consecutively with Zil-Hajjah. 9:3]

9:5 When the four Sacred Months are over and if the idolaters are still aggressing, (neither becoming law-abiding citizens of the State, nor emigrating), subdue them whichever tribe they may belong to, take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them ambush. But if they repent from aggression, and help in the consolidation of the Divine System and in setting up the Economic Order of Zakaat, then leave their way free. Surely, God is Forgiving Merciful (so shall you be).

[The four Sacred Months forbidden for any warfare: From the 12th month, Zil-Hajjah up to the 3rd month, Rabi'ul Awwal 2:193-194, 9:36]

2:194 You may fight during the Months of Peace and Security if you are attacked, for, a violation of sanctity will activate the law of Just retribution. So, the one who attacks you should expect retaliation in a like manner. Be mindful of God, and know that God is with those who live upright.

[Temporary cessation of hostilities provides a cooling off period and it can avert war. History and Tafseers (expositions of the Quran) report the four Months of Peacetime as the first, the seventh, the eleventh and the twelfth month of the Lunar Calendar. However, the Quran being the Ultimate authority specifies them differently. The four Months of Security begin with the Month of Pilgrimage, Zil-Hajjah, the 12th Lunar Month. 2:193-195, 9:5, 9:36]

9:5 When the four Sacred Months are over and if the idolaters are still aggressing, (neither becoming law-abiding citizens of the State, nor emigrating), subdue them whichever tribe they may belong to, take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them ambush. But if they repent from aggression, and help in the consolidation of the Divine System and in setting up the Economic Order of Zakaat, then leave their way free. Surely, God is Forgiving Merciful (so shall you be).

[The four Sacred Months forbidden for any warfare: From the 12th month, Zil-Hajjah up to the 3rd month, Rabi'ul Awwal 2:193-195, 9:36]

9:36 God has ordained twelve months in one year. This has been God’s Ordinance since the day He created the heavens and earth. Four of these Months are Sacred, forbidden for all warfare. This is the Firm Religion, the right way. So, do not wrong yourselves by fighting during the Sacred Months. However, you may fight the idolaters in any or all these months if they fight against you in any or all of them (2:193-195). And know that God is with those who restrain themselves.

[Mankind, through international treaties, must agree to shun all kind of warfare during these four months. This will give them a cooling off period that sense may prevail over emotions. Four Sacred Months for peacetime: 2:193-195, 9:1-5. From the 12th lunar month of Pilgrimage to the third month]
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