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Re: "Violent Verses"
By:abdalaziz ariff / indiana
Date: Sunday, 28 April 2019, 9:38 pm
In Response To: "Violent Verses" (Dr. Nabeel Qureshi)

This may explain the location of Dr. Nabeel Quraishi. [ Christian , Ex Ahmadiya]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabeel_Qureshi_(author)

Dr.Nabeel Quraishi , when you quote an isolated verse, you may not get the true picture, use the method– CONTEXT PLUS CROSS REFERENCES . [ THE GOLDEN RULE ]

Suggestion , instead of 9:5, read 9:1 thru 9:6.

If you quote 9:5 and then read 2:256, there is a contradiction !

QXP vi

4:82
Will they not then, try to understand this Qur'an? If it were from other than God
they would have found in it much contradiction and inconsistencies. [2:23,
10:38, 11:13-14, 17:88]

2:256
(Although this Message has been sent down by the Almighty) there is absolutely
no compulsion or coercion in Religion. The right direction has been made
distinct from error. So, whoever rejects false gods (such as the clergy, human
'authorities') and attains conviction in God, has grasped the Unbreakable
Support. God is Hearer, Knower. [No compulsion in matters of religion - This
Rule shall have no exceptions since Right has been distinguished from Wrong.
2:148, 2:193, 2:256, 4:88, 5:48, 6:104, 6:107-108, 7:177-178, 10:99, 12:108,
18:29, 22:39-40, 27:80-81, 39:41, 56:79, 73:19. At-Taaghoot = Those who,
in rebellion to the One True God, claim to have Divine powers or try to portray
themselves as His representatives = Sufis, mystics, priesthood, clergy, tyrants.
Tagha = Rebellion. Idols of stones cannot rebel and therefore, they cannot
be At-Taaghoot]

39:23
God has now revealed the best Hadith, a Book fully consistent within itself. It marks
out both ways (to success and failure) repeating its Messages in diverse forms.
Herewith shiver the skins of those who have some idea of the glory of their
Lord, and then, their skins and their hearts soften at remembrance of God.
This is the Guidance of God, and with it He guides one who seeks guidance.
Whereas one who follows a path that God has declared to be wrong, goes
astray and he cannot find a guide. [4:88, 15:87. Hadith = Narration]

“Why do the Muslims have such terrible things in their Quran?” people sometimes ask me. “I think that’s why they are so violent.”

It’s very easy to criticize other people’s sacred texts – and other traditions more generally. There seems to be much to criticize, especially for those with only a cursory knowledge of the community we feel entitled to demean.”

Ref: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/rabbis-without-borders/what-do-we-do-about-violence-in-the-torah/

A new data-based study published on Yahoo News, Huffington Post, and many other media, purports to have proven that the Bible—including the New Testament—is more violent than the Quran.
From Tom McKay's article about the study: "Fifty-eight percent of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Islam" thanks to a "laundry list of misinformation about the faith's holy text, the Quran." He continues:
But a recent project by data analyst and research marketer Tom Anderson turns one common misconception on its head: that the Quran is more consumed by blood thirst than the Christian Bible.... Of the three books [Old Testament, New Testament, Quran], the project found, the Old Testament is the most violent, with approximately 5.3% of the text referring to "destruction and killing" — the Quran clocked in at just 2.1%, with the New Testament slightly higher at 2.8%.... According to Anderson, the findings challenge the popular notion among Westerners that Muslims subscribe to a particularly violent faith. Indeed, he concluded, "of the three texts, the content in the Old Testament appears to be the most violent."

So this study proves what Islam's apologists have long claimed: that the Bible contains more violence and bloodshed than the Quran. Even so, the intelligence and/or sincerity of anyone—including supposed scholars and "thinkers"—who cites this fact as proof that the Quran cannot incite more violence than the Bible must be highly doubted.

Ref: https://www.meforum.org/5860/bible-quran-violence

Messages In This Thread

"Violent Verses"
Dr. Nabeel Qureshi -- Saturday, 27 April 2019, 7:01 pm
Re: "Violent Verses"
Nouman Ali Khan -- Saturday, 27 April 2019, 7:03 pm
Re: "Violent Verses"
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Saturday, 27 April 2019, 7:08 pm
Re: "Violent Verses"
abdalaziz ariff / indiana -- Sunday, 28 April 2019, 9:38 pm
Re: "Violent Verses"
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Sunday, 28 April 2019, 10:52 pm
Re: "Violent Verses"
jawaid ahmed -- Monday, 29 April 2019, 2:08 pm