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Re: Miracles? (John Lawton, UK)
By:A Sayed (South Africa)
Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2018, 8:50 am
In Response To: Miracles? (John Lawton, UK)

In the “Is God Great?” debate Christopher Hitchens states that God is “an intolerable, unchallengeable dictator” who “created you full of dirt, wickedness, etc”.

The Qur’an challenges this notion by him by inspiring to believe that God did not create the “smoke” (interstellar dust and gas) or its quality and nature, from which He created our physical Universe or the quality and nature of all things that exist from it.

Hence, the whole idea of a temporary creation is to Reform the creation of Man to make him worthy of “inheriting and ruling the world” in the eternal life of the Hereafter, according to the knowledge of science, which relate to “the natural laws of the different dominions of the heavens and the earth”, and not Religion, (Qur'an 6:75).

Revealed knowledge to this effect is not binding. In other words, if you do not wish for eternal life you are not compelled to follow His orders.

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John Lennox was brilliant until he explained his belief in Jesus as Son of God who died for his sins. This did not blend well with the “reason and science” atmosphere of the debate.

About 50 years ago, I read a piece in the last page of The Time Magazine, which was titled “The Myth of God Incarnate”.

The article claimed that in a World Council of Churches meeting an Anglican Bishop complained that he could not say or do what Jesus said and did because Jesus was God and Son of God and he was not. He said that if Jesus was a figure like Gandhi or Mao Tse Tong then it would be possible for him to say and do most of what Jesus said and did in the Bible.

When the hierarchy of the Church was questioned about it, they said that it was impossible to change their belief in Trinity because all dogmas and doctrines of the Church were interknitted and intertwined to such an extent that if they deleted their belief in Trinity the entire belief system of the Church that of Salvation, original sin, etc, would collapse.

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As far as Virgin Birth is concerned I agree with John Lennox that “whenever God feeds a new event in Nature the “Laws of Nature are not suspended or broken”.

To a Muslim the Qur’an is the Criterion and those teachings of the Old and New Testaments that agree with the Revealed Knowledge of the Qur’an are acceptable.

Hence, all other tales of virgin birth in all other belief systems are false because the Qur’an clearly mentions that God “chose Mary above all the other women of the world”, (Qur’an 3:42).

It appears from the Bible and the Qur’an that Joseph married Mary as a minor and that she was still in the custody of her family when Jesus was born. Hence, it is not surprising that her household, the Jews and Joseph suspected her of being unchaste.

This does not mean that if a Qur’an student believes in the Virgin Birth of Jesus he or she also believes in the second coming of Jesus or that he did not die a natural death? It is foolish to think that way, but Qur’an students believing in science above Revealed Knowledge stink.

Best Regards,
AK Sayed (South Africa).

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Virgin Birth?
John Lawton, UK -- Monday, 27 August 2018, 4:30 pm
Miracles?
John Lawton, UK -- Monday, 27 August 2018, 4:32 pm
Re: Miracles? (John Lawton, UK)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 28 August 2018, 8:50 am
Re: Miracles? (John Lawton, UK)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 28 August 2018, 5:06 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 28 August 2018, 5:28 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 29 August 2018, 7:37 am
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Wednesday, 29 August 2018, 6:31 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 30 August 2018, 7:39 am
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 30 August 2018, 6:27 pm
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