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Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation JAWAID
By:AK Sayed (South Africa)
Date: Sunday, 19 August 2018, 9:57 am
In Response To: Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation JAWAID (jawaid ahmed,uk)

Now I see that your problem is the concept of CONSENSUS only, and not with “ilm this and ilm that” and NATURAL LAW.

That’s good, at least you are agreeing with some of the things I have to say these days.

YOU SAID: -“The consultation must be based upon the Qur'an and not what they think:
10:36 The majority of people follow nothing but conjecture. But conjecture can never be a substitute for the Reality of things. God is Knower of what they do (and forge).”

YOU ARE WRONG. This verse of the Qur’an has nothing to do with CONSULTATION OR CONSENSUS or majority rule in the Muslim world. Otherwise, would Hazrat Abu Bak’r, the first caliph of Islam, allowed himself to be elected by the MAJORITY.

In the context of the verses preceding this verse, this verse is only informing the Muslims that the majority of the people of this world, non-Believers not Believers, are preoccupied with knowledge that is full of conjecture or assumption, which had nothing to do with the Truth and Reality of our Universe.

For example: all the people of this world believe that only Evolution must be taught in public schools because it is against the principles of a public school to teach Creationism.

The present Law Maker of the USA, Senator Jeff Sessions, who believes in the Abrahamic Faith, states that such a belief is a conjecture and that if we did not teach both Evolution and Creationism side by side, we will not establish the Truth and Reality within and between them.

YOUR PROBLEM: You cut and paste without knowing the true meaning of a particular verse in the Qur’an. “Even the Devil can write a book and quote from the Qur’an” (Ahmed Deedat).

As far as the salaat of bird is concerned, they do not make ablution, give call for salaat, go to the masjid, recite Qur’an in the standing position, wear proper attire to attend salaat, etc. Salaat is a “ritual pledge” towards establishing the Divine System according to the Revealed Knowledge of the Qur’an by CONSENSUS. When the Prophet (s) was told to “shorten salaat” on expedition, what did it mean?

Best Regards,
AK Sayed (South Africa).

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Furkan Derya Yıldız, Turkey -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 12:50 am
Namaaz, Contrived
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 12:51 am
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Muhammad Rafi Karachi -- Saturday, 11 August 2018, 7:52 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 7:44 am
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Sidqi.ca -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 6:28 pm
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Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 7:23 pm
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shahalam, TX -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 9:24 pm
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Sidqi. ca -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 12:40 am
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shahalam, TX -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 2:02 am
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Sidqi.ca -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 7:10 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 7:45 am
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Sidqi, ca -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 8:59 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 11 August 2018, 8:27 am
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Sidqi, ca -- Saturday, 11 August 2018, 8:47 pm
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shahalam, TX -- Monday, 13 August 2018, 9:46 pm
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Sidqi.ca -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 6:45 am
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shahalam, TX -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 8:17 pm
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Sidqi.ca -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 10:41 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 1:24 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 7:46 am
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 5:54 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 2:06 pm
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Sidqi, ca -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 8:25 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 18 August 2018, 11:17 am
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Sidqi, ca -- Monday, 20 August 2018, 4:52 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 20 August 2018, 4:52 pm
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Sidqi, ca -- Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 4:14 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 10:19 am
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shahalam, TX -- Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 3:39 pm
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Sidqi.ca -- Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 9:37 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 7:02 am
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shahalam, TX -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 3:44 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 4:43 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 6:13 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 18 August 2018, 7:59 am
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AK Sayed (South Africa) -- Sunday, 19 August 2018, 9:57 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 20 August 2018, 11:34 am
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A SAYED -- Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 8:51 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 5:16 pm
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ismael,florida -- Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 3:43 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 23 August 2018, 7:37 am
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Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 1:18 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 7:40 am
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Abdul Samad -- Sunday, 12 August 2018, 1:57 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 11:30 am
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Shad USA -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 7:57 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 18 August 2018, 11:31 am
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shad usa -- Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 7:14 am