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Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Saturday, 11 August 2018, 8:27 am
In Response To: Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation (Sidqi, ca)

I promise you that I had no anger in my response but the lines I wrote were meant to make US ALL THINK what we are doing, I could be wrong but so far I have had no satisfactory answer why we do a physical ritualised prayer. I am not going to submit unless you present a convincing argument for your point of view and if this comes across as not accepting anything anyone says then I will stick to what I understand as the truth and you have every right to do the same, each to their own, but do not take it to mean I am arrogantly ignoring everyone for the sake of arrogance! I thought by now you should know I am better than that.

With due respect, calm, measured, humble, "God does not stop us" is an answer we could apply to anything that the Qur'an does not have a ruling on but making a prayer a part of deen is saying it is from God, the Messenger taught it, the Arabs knew it, it is a tradition, creed from Abraham.

We see that all in the heavens including the birds are following all that they have been programmed to do by Allah, being dutiful to Him, then so must we. This does not involve a physical prayer. The Qur'an does not have a physical prayer verse for what you do and cobbling numerous verses where sujood, rukooh, standing, sitting, chin bashing, etc does not produce one either. "Timings" are about when and what you should be doing, reflecting at your day ahead or after your day has finished, working at it from morning till night, on doing your duty properly, Qur'anically.

 Sajdah = Prostration = Complete submission = Willful obedience = Utter humility = Adoration = Utmost commitment to Divine cause = Humbling one's own self.
 Rukoo’ (Bowing) and Sajdah (Prostration) are not confined to the ritualistic physical motions. They convey a more sublime message of being humble and submitting to God’s commands.

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Namaaz?
Furkan Derya Yıldız, Turkey -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 12:50 am
Namaaz, Contrived
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 12:51 am
Where do we start ?
Muhammad Rafi Karachi -- Saturday, 11 August 2018, 7:52 am
Re: Namaaz?
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 7:44 am
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Sidqi.ca -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 6:28 pm
Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 7:23 pm
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shahalam, TX -- Thursday, 9 August 2018, 9:24 pm
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Sidqi. ca -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 12:40 am
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shahalam, TX -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 2:02 am
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Sidqi.ca -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 7:10 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 7:45 am
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Sidqi, ca -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 8:59 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 11 August 2018, 8:27 am
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Sidqi, ca -- Saturday, 11 August 2018, 8:47 pm
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shahalam, TX -- Monday, 13 August 2018, 9:46 pm
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Sidqi.ca -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 6:45 am
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shahalam, TX -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 8:17 pm
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Sidqi.ca -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 10:41 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 1:24 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 7:46 am
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 5:54 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 2:06 pm
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Sidqi, ca -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 8:25 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 18 August 2018, 11:17 am
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Sidqi, ca -- Monday, 20 August 2018, 4:52 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 20 August 2018, 4:52 pm
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Sidqi, ca -- Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 4:14 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 10:19 am
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shahalam, TX -- Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 3:39 pm
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Sidqi.ca -- Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 9:37 pm
Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation Shahal
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 7:02 am
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shahalam, TX -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 3:44 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 16 August 2018, 4:43 pm
Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation JAWAID
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 6:13 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 18 August 2018, 7:59 am
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AK Sayed (South Africa) -- Sunday, 19 August 2018, 9:57 am
Re: Namaaz? Al-Jumu'ah – The Congregation JAWAID
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 20 August 2018, 11:34 am
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A SAYED -- Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 8:51 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 5:16 pm
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ismael,florida -- Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 3:43 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 23 August 2018, 7:37 am
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Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 1:18 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 10 August 2018, 7:40 am
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Abdul Samad -- Sunday, 12 August 2018, 1:57 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 11:30 am
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Shad USA -- Friday, 17 August 2018, 7:57 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 18 August 2018, 11:31 am
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shad usa -- Wednesday, 22 August 2018, 7:14 am