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Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Thursday, 26 July 2018, 7:43 am
In Response To: Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk (A Sayed (South Africa))

It was a simple request to show everyone what you call a creed of Abraham and then I would have shown them where they come from, aka the Bible and hadith.

As a muslim, if you ask me what my beliefs are, I would be able to quote a relevant Qur'anic verse to back them up.

It is all waffle when you talk about Tawhid, natural laws and "It would be better if we taught the people the Creeds of Abraham" when you cannot produce a list of what they are.

The fact that in a debate about the creeds of Abraham you are unwilling to discuss what your creeds are speaks volumes.

5:75 The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a Messenger, like other Messengers before him who passed on. And his mother was a woman of truth. Both of them were human beings who had to eat food (like all other mortals). See how clearly We explain Our verses for them, and note how they still deviate!

Here are your creeds:

1. Circumcision.
2. Human asexual plant reproduction.
3. Whole Bible god's word.
4. Disbelief in observable scientific facts in favour of Bible teachings.
5. zama zam water
6. cross country racing in hajj
7..

You may or may not want to continue, but when your beliefs do not stand up to reason, then your beliefs are not worth anything.

6:36 Only those can accept the truth who hear and listen (with an open mind). As for the dead, God will raise them up, then they will be returned to Him (and He will make all of them understand). [2:260, 10:100. The living dead will only hear when they use their faculties]
6:37 They say, “If only a miracle could come down to him from his Lord!” Say, “God has the Power to send down a miracle, but most of them do not use their knowledge.” [He does not wish to stun the human intellect with supernatural phenomena. He wants people to reflect and use reason. 12:108]
6:38 (There are signs in the Universe to behold.) There is not an animal on the earth, nor a flying creature flying on two wings, but they are communities like you. We have omitted nothing in the Book (that was essential to be given through revelation.) Then to their Lord they will be gathered.
6:39 Those who deny Our signs are deaf and dumb, groping in total darkness. God lets go astray those who will. And He takes to the straight path who will.

Messages In This Thread

Why the "millat of Ibrahim"?
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 12 July 2018, 9:45 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"?
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 13 July 2018, 7:51 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Saturday, 14 July 2018, 10:53 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 16 July 2018, 8:10 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 17 July 2018, 7:07 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 18 July 2018, 7:48 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 19 July 2018, 8:43 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 19 July 2018, 5:28 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Friday, 20 July 2018, 1:54 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 20 July 2018, 5:25 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Saturday, 21 July 2018, 4:35 am
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JAWAID AHMED -- Sunday, 22 July 2018, 1:59 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Monday, 23 July 2018, 1:16 pm
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 23 July 2018, 5:28 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 24 July 2018, 8:44 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 25 July 2018, 7:40 am
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Wednesday, 25 July 2018, 4:44 pm
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 26 July 2018, 7:43 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"? (Jawaid Ahmed, uk
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 26 July 2018, 5:16 pm
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Shad Usa -- Friday, 13 July 2018, 8:30 am
Re: Why the "millat of Ibrahim"?
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 27 July 2018, 8:33 am