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Re: Was Hajre Aswad brought from Jannat
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Friday, 25 May 2018, 7:45 am
In Response To: Was Hajre Aswad brought from Jannat (Shravan India)

Arabs were naturists, worshippers of nature and had sacred stones they used to carry around from place to place. How, when and where the black stone came into their possession is anyone's guess but since the Quran does not mention it then 'muslims' are idol worshipping a stone when they kiss or touch it. A STONE!!!! They are hypocrites when they condemn others like Hindus for idol worship and not 'muslim' when they ignore the Qur'an.

5:3 Forbidden to you (for food) are:
Carrion, blood, the flesh of swine, anything (not just meat) that has been dedicated to any other than God (such as an idol, grave or saint), any animal that has been strangled to death, or beaten to death, or killed by fall, or gored to death, or eaten by a wild animal unless you are able to slaughter it while it is still alive, and (also forbidden is) what is slaughtered on idolatrous altars (devotional stones or blocks in shrines considered sacred). And (you are forbidden) from dividing one another’s portions through raffling, for these are deviations. This Day, the rejecters have lost all hope of (making bargains in) your System of Life. Do not fear them, but fear Me. This Day, I have perfected your Deen (laws) for you, completed My favor upon you, and chosen for you Al-Islam as the System of Life. If anyone is forced by dire necessity (to consume the forbidden), with no intention of transgression, (should remember that) God is Forgiving, Merciful. [Mayitah = Carrion = Dead meat = An animal that dies of itself. Azlaam = Dividing eating portions by picking or shooting arrows = In other contexts Azlaam also includes the conjecture of foretelling the future = Raffle = Lottery = Divining arrows = Clairvoyance = Dividing things or time for one another through randomly picking up slips of paper. Deen = System of Life = The laws. 2:173, 2:185, 2:219, 5:90]

2:196 (Peace cannot defend itself. Mankind has to guard it.) Therefore, join the Hajj and ‘Umrah Convention for God. If you are stranded, send in gifts that the congregation would utilize. Do not consider that by doing so you have relieved yourself of duty. Be with them at heart until the gifts have reached their destination. If someone is sick or has other compelling burdens preventing him from sending any contribution, then observe ‘Saum’ for a few days at convenience, or an act of charity or fulfilling someone’s need shall be in order. If a person is present at the Convention but cannot afford to contribute, he should observe ‘Saum’ (Abstinence) for a total number of ten days, three days there and seven days after coming home. This is for him whose people do not live in the vicinity of the Convention. Be mindful of God, remembering the noble objective. And know that God (His laws) is Strict in grasping. [‘Saum’ 2:183. Hajj is the annual Convention in a specified time while ‘Umrah is a visit to the Masjid of Makkah any time during the year. Both have a sublime objective as the Qur’an explains, although Muslims have reduced them into mere rituals similar to the Days of Ignorance. There is no mention of kissing the black-stone in Ka’bah, any "holiness" about the Zam Zam water, or that of throwing rocks at the three pillars signifying Satan. See footnote to Surah 105. The Noble Objective of the Pilgrimage is to arrange regular and intermittent international conferences in Makkah. Delegates from all over the world would get together there and devise ways to make the world a better place to live. ‘Halqirras’ = Relief of burden = Idiom for relief - ‘Imams’ Jurjani, Hasan Basari, Shehristani]
2:197 The Convention shall take place in the months appointed for it and made well known to all. Whoever participates in the Convention shall refrain from indecency, slipping out of discipline and argumentation throughout Hajj. And whatever you accomplish for the good of mankind, God will acknowledge it. So make ample provision, yet the best provision is your good conduct. Be mindful of Me, O Men and women of understanding! [Sexual intimacy, breach of discipline and argumentation would hamper mutual consultation in a focused, amicable environment. Ample provision is not meant only to avoid asking for help, but rather being able to help others. The Central Authority, any time in the Divinely ordained four Months of Peacetime should decide upon and announce the exact dates of Hajj. The current practice of “performing” the ritualistic pilgrimage only in Zilhajjah, the 12th lunar month, finds no authority in the Qur’an. 2:194, 9:1-6. Ulil albaab =Those who possess understanding, is obviously a common gender]

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Was Hajre Aswad brought from Jannat
Shravan India -- Thursday, 24 May 2018, 7:18 pm
Was Hajre Aswad brought from Jannat
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Thursday, 24 May 2018, 9:03 pm
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Ismael Miami fl -- Friday, 25 May 2018, 1:22 am
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Shravan India -- Friday, 25 May 2018, 3:07 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 25 May 2018, 7:45 am
Was Hajre Aswad brought ... Ramdas Kunj
abd ur Rasheed, Goa, India -- Saturday, 26 May 2018, 10:00 am
Re: Was Hajre Aswad brought from Jannat
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 29 May 2018, 8:47 am
Was Hajre Aswad brought ... Ramdas Kunj
abd ur Rasheed, India -- Wednesday, 30 May 2018, 6:13 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 31 May 2018, 5:23 pm
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Khalil Khan, Jamaica -- Tuesday, 29 May 2018, 4:11 pm
Was Hajre Aswad - abd ur Rasheed = Ramdas Kunj
Saadia Khan, Norway -- Thursday, 31 May 2018, 5:55 pm