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Re: verses 32:7-9
By:A Sayed (South Africa)
Date: Tuesday, 15 May 2018, 9:46 am
In Response To: verses 32:7-9 (dawood, usa)

Salaams to you and nice to have you back on the forum.

My reply to your Post is not to dispute with you whether you are right or wrong on your interpretation of 32:7-9. It is just to remind people on this forum that different people use different methodologies to assess what is right and what is wrong.

For example, modernists are usually “science based” and “evidence based” people. On most occasions they are right in what they say and do. It is only when they deny certain things like existence of God or virgin birth in humans, etc, for which they do not have “evidence” according to their methodology that I have to part ways with them.

Well, as far as blind faith is concerned, I think all the people on this forum are against it in any way it is composed.

The third category of people is ones who relate the nature of man to “the natural laws of the different dominions of the heavens and the earth”, according to God’s “handiwork”, like plants and animals do, (Al Qur’an 6:75, 30:30). They establish “certainty of knowledge” by the methodology of ilm-ul-yaqin, ayn-ul-yaqin and haqq-ul-yaqin.

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From the above, let us just differentiate modernists from those who relate to “the natural laws of the different dominions of the heavens and the earth” according to God’s “handiwork” in His creations.

Both promote a Post-Modern way of life based on “reason and science”.

The modernists generally do it by rejecting Religion and the existence of God because they believe, like all people of Religion and sects, that only their belief system based on “science based” and “evidence based” knowledge is correct and all other belief systems are wrong.

The people who relate the nature of man to “the natural laws of the different dominions of the heavens and the earth” according to God’s “handiwork”, use Guidance of Qur’an to have a more universal or global approach to both Religion and Science by reducing both Religion and Godless science to Reality, sometimes by eliminating the dichotomy of the secular and religious and sometimes by superimposing the knowledge of science, religion, culture, politics, etc, one on top of the other without creating any boundaries within and between them that make them separate and exclusive.

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In 2:30-35, Allah is talking about the creation of first man and woman (referring to them in the singular), and not mankind as a whole, whom He states in 32:7-9 He created from “molded clay” and breathed His energy in him and out of the single male and female generated their posterity by process of their reproduction.

Please note: In Qur’an, the word ADAM sometimes refers to FIRST MAN and sometimes MANKIND, like ARD is sometimes used to refer to the PLANET EARTH, sometimes the PHYSICAL UNIVERSE and sometimes the “SMOKE” (interstellar dust and gas) as in 41:11, depending on the context.

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Thus, as haneef, a person of pure natural beliefs (based on the methodology of ilm-ul-yaqin, ayn-ul-yaqin and haqq-ul-yaqin), who relates the nature of man to “the natural laws of the different dominions of the heavens and the earth”, it is not un-natural for me to believe in Asexual reproduction.

Therefore, when the Qur’an explains the birth of Jesus as that of ADAM (whom I interpret as FIRST MAN), on whom God breathed His Energy like He did for FIRST MAN, and then refers to Jesus as “Son of Mary”, it leaves me with no doubt as Haneef that Jesus had a Virgin Birth. God does not CONFUSE. He makes thing CLEAR.

And if God wanted to refute the Virgin Birth of Jesus He would not have referred to Jesus as “Son of Mary” because that does not solve the problem.

Best Regards,
AK Sayed (South Africa).

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dawood, usa -- Monday, 14 May 2018, 7:50 pm
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Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Monday, 14 May 2018, 11:17 pm
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 15 May 2018, 9:46 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 15 May 2018, 5:23 pm
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Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Wednesday, 16 May 2018, 12:50 am
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dawood, usa -- Wednesday, 16 May 2018, 6:06 pm
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Junaid, Cape Town -- Friday, 18 May 2018, 7:33 am
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A Sayed (South Africa) -- Saturday, 19 May 2018, 2:10 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 21 May 2018, 8:00 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 15 May 2018, 4:02 pm
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dawood, usa -- Wednesday, 16 May 2018, 5:59 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 17 May 2018, 7:58 am