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Re: Is each and every verse and chapter applicable
By:Kianusch, Iran
Date: Monday, 19 February 2018, 9:18 am
In Response To: Is each and every verse and chapter applicable? (Noman Waseem)

Parwez, Letters to Tahira, P21:

..It should be made quite clear that the Quran talks in general terms and does not discuss the exceptions. It is not meant that proper education and training cannot make up for the deficiency in a person. The heavenly or ideal society professes that: a woman will have a flair for oratory and languages (56:37). Further to these explanations, it is to be noted that in respect of the two women, the Quran does not say that both of them are to give evidence one after the other, thereby making their testimony equal to that of one man. It says: if the one who is presenting evidence is uncertain due to some confusion, then the one standing by her should remind her (2:282). This makes it
obvious that if the woman recording the evidence is not confused then any prompting by the other
would not occur, and the testimony of a lone woman would be enough.
It is also evident that if girls are not adorned by jewels only that they would not be at a loss when
problems in life are to be tackled; but when they are adorned with the jewels of education and proper
training, they would be quite eloquent. In this case no standby woman would be needed for evidence..

[*Significant part of the text]
..The Quran's laws in such matters are specifically conditional. When these conditions are not fulfilled,
the laws do not remain operative. For example, if you do find water, then the law of dry ablutions
becomes spurious.

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I think the Quranic laws are not optional, for example we cannot say "we drink wine because there is no compulsion in Deen" but No Compulsion In Deen means we are free and we can accept the Quran and ALL of its rules as the set of laws and become Muslim or we can reject it and become Non-Muslim.

But some Quranic laws..:
1) have some alternatives (e.g. feeding the poor instead of Saum) that mentioned in the Quran.

2) or only applies when certain conditions are met (e.g. dry ablution when there is no water, or "1woman+1man" instead of "2women" in a patriarchal society).

3) Obviously there is another condition, some laws not mentioned in the Quran, so we can solve our problems by Ijtihaad within the framework of the Permanent Values or Quranic principles.

Regarding "optional" in my message to dear Noman bhai, I meant the case (2) and not violating the Quranic laws.

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Is each and every verse and chapter applicable?
Noman Waseem -- Sunday, 18 February 2018, 1:19 am
Re: Is each and every verse and chapter applicable
Kianusch, Iran -- Monday, 19 February 2018, 9:18 am
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Noman Waseem, NJ -- Monday, 19 February 2018, 7:30 pm
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Sidqi,ca -- Thursday, 22 February 2018, 2:56 am
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Noman Waseem, NJ -- Friday, 23 February 2018, 12:35 am
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shahalam, TX -- Friday, 23 February 2018, 6:50 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 February 2018, 8:57 am
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Sidqi.ca -- Friday, 23 February 2018, 7:04 pm
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Shad USA -- Saturday, 24 February 2018, 5:49 am
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Sidqi.ca -- Saturday, 24 February 2018, 8:21 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 24 February 2018, 4:27 pm