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Re: Mary and Parthenogenesis!!!
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Monday, 5 February 2018, 12:34 pm
In Response To: Re: Mary and Parthenogenesis!!! (Dr Shabbir, Florida)

Dr Saab, do not laugh too hard or else I will be blamed for hearty/health problem.
Stay calm, but Mary growing like a 'plant' meant when Allah breathed on/in her, the pollen could go from her stamen to her stigma!
I won't mention that the Quran says Allah creates males and females and this means He creates a male-female in one body!

Mary the Plant!

3:37. Right graciously did her Lord accept her: He made her grow in purity and beauty: To the care of Zakariya was she assigned. Every time that he entered (Her) chamber to see her, He found her supplied with sustenance. He said: "O Mary! Whence (comes) this to you?" She said: "From Allah. for Allah Provides sustenance to whom He pleases without measure."

Mary is described as ‘growing’ and the root is also used to describe plant growth, growth from the earth so our masters of horticulture, fertilised by the manure of witlessness have added two plus two to get a big ZERO, and made Mary able to propagate from herself a son! They say that some plants reproduce asexually so therefore the Quran uses this analogy to describe the process of virgin birth!!

Yes, the Quran uses the phrase “Wa anbataha” = and reared her, from the root N B T

“اَلنَّبْتُ” (an-nabt), “اَلنَّبَاتُ” (an-nabaat): anything that grows from the earth {R}.
“اَلْمَنْبِتُ” (al-munbit): the place to grow.
This root also has the connotation of being growing, appearing, and evident.
“نَبَتَ ثَدْیُ الجَارِیَۃِ” (alled nabata sadul jaariyah): for a girl’s chest to become evident or developed.
“نَبَتَتْ عَانَۃُ الغُلاَمِ” (nabatat aanahu ghulaam): for a boy to attain maturity.
“اَنْبَتَ الغُلاَمُ” (anbatal ghulam): for a young boy to attain maturity
“التَّنْبِیتُ” (at-tanbaitu): to nurture, upbringing {T}.
Ibn Faris says it means “growth” in something.

Arabic is a descriptive language so we cannot take Mary’s ‘growth’ to be an attribute of her ‘flowering’ and self-fertilisation ability, just like every descriptive word in the Quran that applies to humans and the natural world does not turn ourselves into real donkeys just because we raise our husky voices harsly! Elsewhere, the Quran says followers of Islam will be strong like plants so this interpretation is completely wrong.

31:19 Walk humbly and lower your voice in humility. For, the harshest of voices is the voice of a donkey."

48:29 Muhammad is God’s Messenger. And those who are with him are stern towards the deniers, and compassionate among themselves. You can see them bowing, adoring (Him), as they seek God’s bounty and acceptance. Their signs (of belief) are on their faces, the effects of adoration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel. They are like a seed that brings forth its shoot, and then He strengthens it, so that it grows stout, and then stands firm on its stem, delighting those who have sown it. As a result it enrages the deniers at them. And God promises forgiveness and an immense reward to those who attain belief and do acts of beneficence. [The very first sentence in this verse says, Muhammad-ur-Rasoolullah (Muhammad is God’s Messenger.) Recently, some factions that try to belittle the exalted Prophet, have been falsely claiming that this utterance is ascribed in the Qur’an only to the hypocrites in verse 63:1. How can they miss 48:29? Athar-is-sujood is frequently mistranslated as the physical mark on the forehead resulting from regular prostration. But Wajh = Countenance = Whole being = Face, and not forehead. In addition, the verses of the Bible that the Qur’an is referring to, make no mention of any physical marks on the foreheads or faces. Sujood = Adoration = Prostrations = Complete submission. ‘Signs on their faces’ = Reflection of faith in the believer’s mannerism. Torah and Gospel: Numbers16:22. Mark 4: 27-28 – Mathew 13:3-9]

Messages In This Thread

Mary and Parthenogenesis!!!
Ehsun Chowtawala, Bangkok -- Saturday, 3 February 2018, 1:56 am
Mary and Parthenogenesis!!!
Iqbal Sheikh, Sialkot -- Saturday, 3 February 2018, 1:59 am
Re: Mary and Parthenogenesis!!!
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 3 February 2018, 8:18 am
Re: Mary and Parthenogenesis!!!
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Saturday, 3 February 2018, 11:52 pm
Re: Mary and Parthenogenesis!!!
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 5 February 2018, 12:34 pm