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Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Wednesday, 27 December 2017, 8:52 am
In Response To: Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL) (A Sayed (South Africa))

Uncle, you made this statement "And since the Bible also claims that Mary was virgin when she conceived and Jesus raised the dead by the permission of God, the teachings of the Bible on this issue and many other issues are the same."

Have you read the Bible? Mathew states the virgin shall conceive as was prophesied, in other words GOD made a prophecy this would happen.
Does the claim of virgin birth stand up scrutiny?
As Jesus needed to be an unblemished sacrifice, virgin birth was crucial for this but why do Mark and John not mention this 'act' when all four gospels say Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey[s]? What is more important?
Virgin birth was a concoction of Mathew and Luke copied from him. There is no virgin birth in the Old Testament so you claiming the Quran confirms this act in the Bible is wrong.
Raising dead is clear in many parts of the Quran as reviving peoples beliefs, in the same was as you would not say the deaf, dumb and blind are all literally deaf, dumb and blind!

Mathew chapter 1:-
1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
(note; Mary did not remain an apparent virgin after giving birth which is propagated by the Roman Catholics and they falsely state that she remains an eternal virgin, the “mother of god”!)

The prophecy that was fulfilled by ths virgin birth as narrated in 1:22 means Mathew is making it crystal clear that God had pre-ordained this event to occur.
Now for the actual prophecy, read Isaiah chapter 7 verse 14;

7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. (In the actual passage in Hebrew it is stated that a young woman, “almah”, will conceive and not a virgin, “bethultha”, but the Bible authors put this word virgin in to help propagate their lies)
But the prophesy was fulfilled in the following verse of Isaiah
8:2 And I took unto me faithful witnesses to record, Uriah the priest, and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah.
8:3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the LORD to me, Call his name Mahershalalhashbaz.

The prophetess conceived in the same way as Mary, a person went in “unto” her, and this episode was not a prophecy for Jesus but was fulfilled at that time. This means Mathew was trying to deceive the gullible Christian sheep who are just as indoctrinated in falsehood as the Mullah inspired Muslims. Words and events taken out of context will always misguide the majority who fail to use their Allah given intellects to confirm the truth, confirmation of even the teachings of the Quranic verses is advocated by Allah in His Book.

Messages In This Thread

Re: Virgin Birth
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 8:59 am
Re: NO Virgin Birth
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 3:06 pm
Re: NO Virgin Birth
abdalaziz ariff / indianapolis -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 11:25 pm
Re: NO Virgin Birth
Tahir Canada -- Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 12:05 am
Re: NO Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 7:09 am
Re: NO Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 3:12 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 21 December 2017, 11:23 am
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 21 December 2017, 4:48 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
shahalam, TX -- Thursday, 21 December 2017, 10:01 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 22 December 2017, 8:18 am
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Monday, 25 December 2017, 1:03 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
shahalam, TX -- Tuesday, 26 December 2017, 5:35 am
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 27 December 2017, 8:52 am
Re: Virgin Birth
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 3:47 pm