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Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
By:A Sayed (South Africa)
Date: Monday, 25 December 2017, 1:03 pm
In Response To: Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL) (jawaid ahmed,uk)

Before the time of the Prophet Muhammad (s), all knowledge of religion outside of what is written in Qur’an was fully established in our world.

The Qur’an was sent to make clear all teachings of all aspects of life to them.

For example, the Qur’an was sent to make clear to them that “Jesus was not the begotten Son of God and the doctrine of Trinity was false”. Therefore, no Muslim, whether one who follows the Hadith or Qur’an Alone, believes Jesus is God and Son of God.

Likewise, the Qur’an makes clear that the birth of Jesus or that of Adam is not like the birth of Isaac and Yahyah because God did not breathe His Energy on Sarah or on the mother of Yahyah to create them.

Hence, in the case of Isaac and Yahyah, the Qur’an makes very clear that both parents (male and female) were involved in their birth. Sarah said, “I am barren and my husband is old” and Zachariya said, “My wife is barren and I am old”.

But, in the case of Jesus, no father is involved. The same is also true for the creation of Adam. God needed to breathe His Energy to bring them into existence. Therefore, to state that God is the Father of Jesus and Adam and not their Creator is idiotic.

Likewise, when the Christians claimed that Jesus had attributes of God because He gave life to dead people and cured blind people and lepers, etc, the Qur’an makes clear that it was so but by the permission of God and not otherwise. The verse of the Qur’an to this effect is as follows:

3:49: to be a Messenger to the Children of Israel saying, "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I will create for you out of clay as the likeness of a bird; then I will breathe into it, and it will be a bird, by the leave of God. I will also heal the blind and the leper, and bring to life the dead, by the leave of God. I will inform you too of what things you eat, and what you treasure up in your houses. Surely in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.
Thus, if one reads the Bible intelligently, one can refute Trinity by quoting from Bible that Jesus said, “The Father is greater than I” and that “That Day nobody knows, not even the angels in heaven nor the Son, only the Father knows”. And since the Bible also claims that Mary was virgin when she conceived and Jesus raised the dead by the permission of God, the teachings of the Bible on this issue and many other issues are the same.

But, unfortunately against the knowledge of the Qur’an, which calls upon the Jews, Christians and Muslims to “establish the Deen and make no division therein” (42:13), the Ahlul Qur’an are the ones who are making the division by stating that Mary was not virgin when she conceived and Jesus did not raise the dead (see QXP translation of 3:49).

Thus, the main purpose of the Qur’an is not only to make things clear but also to establish unity between all the different powers and forces of our universe to establish everlasting universal peace.

For example, by establishing unity between all the Books and Prophets of God and the Word of God with the Work of God in Nature, we can judge all teachings of science, whether it concerns creation or the virgin birth of Jesus.

Hence, our problem in this forum is that we are not using Qur’an to understand Qur’an but are using science to understand Qur’an.

As long we don’t establish consensus how we are going to use Qur’an to explain Qur’an, we are going to keep going around in circles.

Merry Christmas,
AK Sayed (South Africa).

Messages In This Thread

Re: Virgin Birth
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 8:59 am
Re: NO Virgin Birth
Dr Shabbir, Florida -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 3:06 pm
Re: NO Virgin Birth
abdalaziz ariff / indianapolis -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 11:25 pm
Re: NO Virgin Birth
Tahir Canada -- Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 12:05 am
Re: NO Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 7:09 am
Re: NO Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 20 December 2017, 3:12 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 21 December 2017, 11:23 am
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 21 December 2017, 4:48 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
shahalam, TX -- Thursday, 21 December 2017, 10:01 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 22 December 2017, 8:18 am
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Monday, 25 December 2017, 1:03 pm
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
shahalam, TX -- Tuesday, 26 December 2017, 5:35 am
Re: Virgin Birth (TO ALL)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 27 December 2017, 8:52 am
Re: Virgin Birth
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 19 December 2017, 3:47 pm