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Re: Salaat and Hadith
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 1:53 pm
In Response To: Re: Salaat and Hadith (Dawood, USA)

So do you read the Quran and do what it says?
Are you obedient, going along with the Quran as your Guide?
If you do then you are doing salat, just like all the obedient creatures in the heavens who do so instinctively.
If you do a physical namaz ritual then you are not doing what Allah says, as it is not in the Quran. This is not obedience to Allah but your own straying ego that makes up acts and attributes them to Allah.

6:92 And this (Qur’an) is a blessed Book that We have sent down, confirming the (revelations) that came before it, that you (O Prophet) may warn the Central Town (Makkah) and all around it. Those who believe in the Hereafter, believe in this (Book). And they ensure following of the Divine Commands. [From Makkah, the Message will fan out in all directions 6:90, 12:104, 2:101. Wa hum ‘ala salaatihim yuhaafizoon = They guard their prime commitment = They protect the Divine System that they have established. The common translation, “They guard their prayers,” makes no sense here]
6:93 Who can be a greater wrongdoer than the one who fabricates a lie and attributes it to God, or claims receiving revelation while he has received none? Or one who says, “I, too, can write the same as what God has revealed.” If only you could see such transgressors at the time of death! The angels extend their power to them saying, “Bring out your egos. This day you will be awarded a punishment of disgrace for speaking lies concerning God, and for being too arrogant to accept His revelations.” [Angels = God’s forces in nature. Yadd = Hand = Powers = Abilities. 5:38]

If you do anything that is not in the Quran, however innocent or innocuous it may seem [physically bowing to Allah is not an evil act, just a wrong act], then you are are mixing truth with faslehood:

3:20 If they argue with you (O Messenger), tell them, “I have submitted to God; I and those who follow me.” Say to the People of the Scripture, and to those who have no Scripture, “Would you submit (to God)?” If they submit, then they have been guided but if they turn away, then your duty is only to convey the Message. God is Seer of His servants.
3:21 Those who reject the messages of God, and wrongfully kill (degrade) the Prophets or their Mission by mixing truth with falsehood, and kill or harm the advocates of justice in the society; promise them grievous retribution.
3:22 They are the people whose (good) deeds shall be nullified in this world and in the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers at all.

Messages In This Thread

Salaat and Hadith
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 19 October 2017, 11:44 am
Re: Salaat and Hadith
Mubashir -- Thursday, 19 October 2017, 10:55 pm
Re: Salaat and Hadith (Mubashir)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Friday, 20 October 2017, 2:08 pm
Re: Salaat and Hadith (Mubashir)
Mubashir, Canada -- Saturday, 21 October 2017, 10:57 pm
Re: Salaat and Hadith (Mubashir)
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Monday, 23 October 2017, 8:05 am
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dawood, USA -- Saturday, 21 October 2017, 10:51 pm
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Mubashir Canada -- Sunday, 22 October 2017, 7:32 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Tuesday, 24 October 2017, 8:12 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 7:34 am
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Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 4:39 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 5:23 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 26 October 2017, 10:40 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 1:30 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 7:13 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 9:08 am
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Razi, India -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 9:19 am
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Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 7:07 pm
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Tahir Canada -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 9:59 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 26 October 2017, 10:22 pm
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Tahir Canada -- Friday, 27 October 2017, 10:59 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 7:01 pm
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Tahir Canada -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 3:03 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 9:11 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 1:40 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 8:14 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:42 am
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 26 October 2017, 10:26 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 1:53 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 7:18 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 12:18 pm
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Razi, India -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 11:22 am
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 7:26 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 12:23 pm
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Razi, India -- Wednesday, 1 November 2017, 9:17 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 23 October 2017, 7:31 am
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Mubashir, Canada -- Tuesday, 24 October 2017, 3:25 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 24 October 2017, 3:47 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Tuesday, 24 October 2017, 8:02 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 25 October 2017, 7:57 am
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 26 October 2017, 8:30 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 1:59 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 7:28 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 12:34 pm
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Asif -- Friday, 27 October 2017, 8:25 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 2:14 pm
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Asif -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 2:39 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 10:44 am