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Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
By:A Sayed (South Africa)
Date: Saturday, 28 October 2017, 9:03 am
In Response To: Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen (jawaid ahmed,uk)

Jawaid Bhai, please try and understand the following:

On this worldly plane of ours, science and religion are two separate entities which oppose one another in almost every issue of life, even in methodology.

Therefore, today in the secular and rational world our belief in God will only be acceptable if we claim, “I believe in God because I do gardening”, because of the fact that the secular and rational world is completely opposed to religion.

But, if we believe in the “Creed of Abraham”, we can bring about a greater challenge to the secular and rational world by stating ”I believe in God because I believe in the Post-Modern Faith of Abraham, which superimposes the knowledge of science, religion, culture, politics, etc, one on top of the other without creating any boundaries within and between them that make them separate and exclusive”.

In this teaching of the Abrahamic Faith, the Truth and Reality of science, religion, culture, politics, etc, are made exactly the same. How would the secular and rational world challenge that?

Therefore, do you think that your belief in this forum that God created primeval matter from “nothingness” meaning something “void and non-existent” will be acceptable to the secular and rational world?

Likewise, how do you explain to the secular and rational world that Adam was created as “successor” to the humans that evolved from the chimpanzee? Do you think that they will believe you that Adam did not evolve from the chimpanzee?

Jeff Session, the AG of the USA, is right when he states that by separating the Church from State we will not know the Truth about both the secular and religious. Wittingly or unwittingly, he understood the Abrahamic Faith better than most Muslims who hold the Qur’an in their hands.

Jawaid Bhai, in the last three years, I have tried very hard to convince you that you have to have knowledge of the “Creed of Abraham” to understand the Islam, but you always opposed it. Actually, in your last Post on “Salaat and Hadith” you even disclaim it. Therefore, how can I even discuss salaat with you?

You know what is your problem? You are not listening to what people are saying or even what’s going on in the world in that context. You are just cutting and pasting, and as long as you are going to do that we will not get anywhere as an ummah.

Best Regards,
AK Sayed (South Africa).

Messages In This Thread

MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Thursday, 26 October 2017, 10:38 am
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 27 October 2017, 8:18 am
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 9:03 am
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 10:30 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 27 October 2017, 8:30 pm
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 28 October 2017, 1:19 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 7:09 pm
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 31 October 2017, 8:57 am
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen (Dawood, U
A Sayed (South Africa) -- Sunday, 29 October 2017, 7:23 am
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen (Dawood, U
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 10:58 am
Re: MILLAT: A human perspective of Deen (Dawood, U
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 30 October 2017, 11:00 am