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Re: Islam and salaat (Dawood)
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:42 pm
In Response To: Re: Islam and salaat (Dawood) (A Sayed, South Africa)

What are the Creeds of Abraham? The Quran tells us what was given to Abraham and what we can believe and hence follow. NOTHING ELSE

Creeds of Abraham

Honest use of wealth

2:260 [Abraham wanted to understand the law of revival of nations.] “O My Lord! Show me how You revive dead nations.” God said, “Do you believe not?” Abraham said, “Surely, I do but only to satisfy my heart (how I will revive my living dead people). God said, “Take four birds and train them with affection to you, and then leave them apart on separate hilltops.” Then call them; they will come in quickly. Then know that God is Almighty, Wise. [At one call of Abraham the birds came flying back to him. This is how mankind can be brought to the Truth with decent admonition and training, giving them a new life]
2:261 (In training their people, all Messengers of God advised that) spending wealth in the cause of God is like sowing a seed that brings seven (numerous) shoots, each shoot with a hundred grains. This is how God increases the reward according to His Law of Recompense. God is Infinite, Knower.


3:67 Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was an upright man who had surrendered to God. He never ascribed divinity to anyone beside the One True God.
12:38 “I follow the Creed of such of my ancestors as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It is not conceivable that we ever ascribe partners to God. This (belief in Monotheism) is the bounty of God upon us and upon all mankind. (It frees us from bondage to superstition and to ‘men of religion’). But the majority of people fail to grasp this point, and thus remain ungrateful.”
60:4 There is an excellent pattern for you in Abraham, and his companions. They said to their people, “Truly, we stay clear of you and of what you worship instead of God. We reject you. And between us and you has arisen absolute distance and aversion until you believe in God alone.” The only exception was Abraham’s saying to his father, “I will pray for your forgiveness, although I own nothing for you from God.” Then he prayed, “Our Lord! In You we place our trust, to You we turn for guidance, and unto You is the journey’s end. [9:113, 14:41, 19:47, 33:21, 58:22]

No following authorities/ ancestors

3:95 Say, “God has declared the truth. Follow, then, the Creed of Abraham, the upright who shunned all falsehood. He was not of those who choose authorities besides God.”

hajj- convention only what Quran says, no idol stoning worshipping

3:97 Therein are clear messages (to achieve that coveted goal and recall) how Abraham once took his stand (against all divisions of humanity and was granted the leadership of all mankind 2:124-125). Those who enter the System symbolized thereby shall find inner peace and external security. Pilgrimage to this House is a duty all mankind owe to God, those who have the circumstantial means to undertake the visit. One who denies this command should know that God is Absolutely Independent of all His creation.
[Pilgrimage = Joining the Hajj Convention. Mankind can realize the blessings of unity by rallying around this Divinely appointed Center of Ideology. 22:25-28. The idolaters are forbidden only to ‘ya’mur’ or administer the Masjid for obvious ideological reasons. 9:17-18]

Human rights

4:124 And whoever fulfills the needs of people, whether male or female, and is a believer, will enter Paradise. And not the least injustice will be done to them (not amounting to the ‘speck on a date-stone’ 4:53, 35:13.)
4:125 Who has a better Deen (System of Life) than the one who submits completely to God, and thus becomes a benefactor of humanity? Such a person is following the way of Abraham the Upright whom God chose for friend.

Faith based on reason- not blind following of unprovable 'creeds'

6:74 Remember when Abraham said to his father Azar (Terah), “How could you worship idols as gods? I see you and your people are in obvious error.” [Azar is called Terah in the Bible and Zarah in Talmud]
6:75 And to this end, We gave Abraham insight into the Mighty Dominion of the Universe so that he might attain firm conviction.
6:76 (Some of his people were idolaters and others were nature-worshipers.) One night when it grew dark upon him he saw a planet (Venus). He said, “This is my Lord.” But when it set, he said, “I do not love things that fade away.”
6:77 (Another night) when he saw the moon rising in splendor, he said, “This is my Lord." But when it set, he said, “Unless my Lord guides me, I will be of those who go astray.”
6:78 (In the morning) when he saw the sun rising in splendor, he said, “This is my Lord. This is greater!” But when it set, he said, “O My people! I am free of all your idolatry.” [Of course, Abraham knew that the celestial bodies were not gods. He is only preaching to his people by example]
6:79 “I have focused firmly on Him Who initiated the heavens and earth. As an upright man turning away from all that is false, I will never be an idolater.”
6:80 His people argued with him, but Abraham said, “Do you dispute with me about God when He has guided me? I do not fear those you associate with Him. Nothing can happen to me contrary to the laws of God. My Lord encompasses all things in His knowledge. Will you not then, reflect and use your intellect?” [Abraham taught his people to reflect and be rational]

Keep away from what is false

16:123 We have revealed to you this message (O Prophet), “Follow the creed of Abraham who turned away from all that is false." (2:125). He was, by no means, of the idolaters.

No idol worshipping

21:50 This (Qur’an) is a blessed Reminder that We have revealed. Will you then reject it? [They have learned the consequence of those who had denied Moses and Aaron]
21:51 Long before, We showed Abraham his direction and We were Aware of him,
21:52 When he said to his father and his people, "What are these images and statues that you sit around worshiping?"
21:53 They responded, "We found our ancestors worshipers of them."
21:54 He said, "You and your ancestors have surely been in plain error."

Salat and zakat, but no physical ritual acts mentioned, hence:

22:78 Strive for God with a strife befitting Him, for He has elected you and placed no hardship in Religion, the Creed of your father Abraham. He has named you Muslimeen in the bygone days and now in this revelation, that the Messenger may be a witness against you and you may be witnesses against mankind! So, establish the Divine System and set up the Just Economic Order, and hold fast unto God. He is your Patron; how excellent a Patron and how excellent a Helper! [2:143. Muslimeen = Muslims = Submitters = Those who submit to God alone = Upholders of peace. 2:132, 2:136]

No sects- no creed of Abraham worshippers

42:13 He has ordained for you all, the same System of Life that He enjoined upon Noah - And We have revealed to you (O Prophet) the same message as We enjoined upon Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: "Establish the Divine System of Life and make no sects in it.” (O Prophet) the unity you call to, it is hard upon the idolaters. God draws to Himself everyone who is willing, and guides to Himself everyone who turns to Him for guidance.” [Sects vs. Unity: 3:32, 3:104, 6:160, 30:31, 42:13, 45:17-18]

The scrolls of Abraham

53:37 And (the Scrolls) of Abraham who fulfilled his obligations.
[The Divine message has essentially been the same. Herein are mentioned some of those laws, Twelve Maxims of intense beauty from the Scrolls of Abraham]
53:38 i No laden one shall bear the load of another. [6:164, 39:7, 65:7]
53:39 ii Every human being shall be responsible for his own works and compensated for his labor.
53:40 iii And soon, his effort (and not the results) will be seen.
53:41 iv Then he will be fully rewarded for it.
53:42 v To your Lord is the final destination. [79:44. Your goal shall be your Lord’s Rule on earth]
53:43 vi He is the One Who causes you to laugh, and to cry. [The basic principles that cause nations to live in prosperity versus misery, are being mentioned here]
53:44 vii He is the One Who gives death and gives life. [The rise and fall of nations follow His laws. And these laws are most excellently expounded in the Qur’an]
53:45 viii He is the One Who creates the two companions, the male and the female (pairs and opposites among His creation),
53:46 From gametes that unite.
53:47 ix He has promised to bring about a second life (the ultimate accountability).
53:48 x He is the One Who gives wealth and contentment (according to His laws).
53:49 xi He is the One Who is the Lord of the brightest star, the human intellect.
[Shi'ra = Sha'oor = Intellect. Shi'ra is also the Arabic name of the brightest star Sirius in the constellation Canis Major. It was widely worshiped in ancient Middle East]
53:50 xii He is the One Who annihilated the former tribe of ‘Aad. [They were men of intellect but refused to establish the Divine System. God never changes His laws, therefore, a wrong system, however smartly run, is bound to collapse]

Follow Allah

87:14 Successful is he who primes his own ‘self’ for development (by living a life upright).
87:15 And keeps foremost in mind the Name and Attributes of his Lord and then follows Him.
[‘Ism’ = Name = Attributes. ‘Salu’ = Follow closely. In the context here: trying to adopt the ‘Hue’ of God, the Divine attributes in one’s personality in the human capacity 2:138, 83:28]
87:16 But nay, you prefer the life of this world (given to instant gains instead of benefiting others that ensures success in both lives). [2:201, 3:147, 4:134, 7:156, 10:64,17:72, 28:77, 42:22]
87:17 Although the Hereafter is better and more enduring.
87:18 This has been said in the former revelations as well. [Suhuf = Scrolls = Revelations]
87:19 The revelations of Abraham and Moses.

Messages In This Thread

Islam and salaat
A Sayed, South Africa -- Thursday, 28 September 2017, 8:39 am
Re: Islam and salaat
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 28 September 2017, 5:28 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 12:43 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 5:17 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 6:40 am
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:13 pm
Re: Islam and salaat
Dawood, USA -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 9:36 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Dawood)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 10:20 am
Re: Islam and salaat (Dawood)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:42 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Sunday, 1 October 2017, 2:13 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 2 October 2017, 8:01 am
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 10:23 am
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:15 pm
Re: Islam and salaat
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 11:15 am
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 2 October 2017, 11:02 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:21 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 4 October 2017, 9:25 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 5 October 2017, 7:25 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 6 October 2017, 10:52 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 7 October 2017, 8:19 am