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Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Friday, 29 September 2017, 5:17 pm
In Response To: Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk) (A Sayed, South Africa)

My brain and fingers are in repetitive strain mode.

Does the Quran give us the ritual rights that you say are the millet of Abraham? NO.

So those who continue to practice what is not in the Quran have two ways to justify their innovation, shirk, and that is via hadith or ancestors.

We reject the hadith as the Quran directs us to follow only the Quran.

45:1 H.M. Ha-Meem),
45:2 The revelation of the Book is from God, the Mighty, the Wise.
45:3 In the heavens and earth are signs for all who are willing to attain conviction.
45:4 And in your own creative design, and in all the animals that He has spread widely, there are signs for those who explore and attain certainty.
45:5 And in the alternation of the night and the day, and in the means of sustenance which God sends down from the height, reviving the earth which had been lifeless, and in the change of winds and seasons - in all this are signs for people who use their reason.
45:6 Tilka ayatu Allahi natlooha AAalayka bialhaqqi fabi-ayyi hadeethin baAAda Allahi waayatihi yu/minoona
45:6 THESE ARE THE MESSAGES OF ALLAH WE CONVEY TO YOU WITH TRUTH. THEN, IN WHAT HADITH, IF NOT IN ALLAH AND HIS VERSES, WILL THEY BELIEVE?

We reject the practices supposedly handed down by Abraham as the Quran directs us to:

2:170 When it is said to them, "Follow what God has revealed", they say, "Nay! We will follow the ways of our ancestors.” What! Even though their ancestors (and the ancient Imams) were lacking in understanding and were not rightly guided?
[5:104, 10:78, 11:62, 11:87, 21:53, 34:43, 38:7, 43:23. Hudan and derivatives = Prominent = Bright = Lighted = Clearly visible = Leading = Guidance = Lighthouse = A well-lit road = A landmark of identification in the desert or sea]
2:171 The likeness of such blind followers is that (of a herd of sheep) which hear the shepherd’s call, but hear in it nothing more than a sound and a shout. Deaf, dumb, blind, for they do not use their reason.
[This is subhuman level of existence 7:179. ‘Unq = Shepherd’s call. Shepherd here pertains to religious leaders who have learned some meaningless words or tenets, and a herd of sheep is the masses that blindly follow them. Kufr embraces blind following in addition to denying, opposing, or concealing the truth. Perceptual senses alone cannot distinguish human beings from the rest of the animal kingdom. It is the intellectual analysis that sets them apart]

If you seclude yourself during parts of the day then you should be studying the Quran and using this knowledge throughout the day- salat.
Of course the Deen of Allah includes utilising all the facilities Allah has given us to better our lives, not only the teachings of the Quran but the ‘teachings’ we discover in the natural world.

2:164 (God never ordains blind faith.) Indeed, there are ample signs in the creation of the heavens and earth, the alternation of the night and the day, the ships that roam the ocean for the benefit of mankind, the water that God sends down from the heights, thereby giving life to the land after it had been lifeless, in dispersing a great variety of creatures therein, in the currents of winds and the clouds made subservient between the high atmosphere and the earth. All these are clear signs for those who use their intellect.

“void” and “non-existent”.

Time exists with space. At year ZERO there was no time or space, hence NOTHING, void. Science has shown this, not me. Allah is that which can bring about time and space from nothing as time and space came into existence so needed a cause. What is the problem with this?
Science has shown life evolves, the Quran says life evolves. We say Allah has endowed this universe with the necessary ‘forces of nature’ to bring about life and its nourishment and development- RAHMAN AND RAHEEM.

Arabic language in the Quran is there to be read with purity of thoughts and following the ancestors creed of Abraham is devoid of wisdom!

Messages In This Thread

Islam and salaat
A Sayed, South Africa -- Thursday, 28 September 2017, 8:39 am
Re: Islam and salaat
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 28 September 2017, 5:28 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 12:43 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 5:17 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 6:40 am
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:13 pm
Re: Islam and salaat
Dawood, USA -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 9:36 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Dawood)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 10:20 am
Re: Islam and salaat (Dawood)
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:42 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Sunday, 1 October 2017, 2:13 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 2 October 2017, 8:01 am
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A Sayed, South Africa -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 10:23 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:15 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 11:15 am
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 2 October 2017, 11:02 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:21 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 4 October 2017, 9:25 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 5 October 2017, 7:25 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 6 October 2017, 10:52 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 7 October 2017, 8:19 am