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Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
By:A Sayed, South Africa
Date: Friday, 29 September 2017, 12:43 pm
In Response To: Re: Islam and salaat (jawaid ahmed,uk)

The natural laws of the different dominions of the heavens and the Earth are not limited to the making of electricity, microwaves, cell phones, etc.

They also provide knowledge of a comprehensive way of life that deals with politics, economics, religion, culture, etc.

In Qur’an, Allah commands us to “follow the millat (creed) of Ibrahim”, not DEEN ALLAH as you mention. The following is the verse of the Qur’an to this effect:

2:130 -Who would forsake the Creed of Abraham except he who ridicules his own 'self'? We chose him in this world, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who attained self-actualization. [Leader 2:124. Saaliheen = The righteous ones = Those who have attained self- actualization = Perfected their personalities = Maximized their human potential = Who set things right = Help others = Create balance in the society = Fulfill others' needs. 16:120-122].

One of the requirements of the Creed is that we seclude ourselves at different times of the day and night from earthly and mundane activities of our lives, both business and personal, in which we are usually engrossed and immersed, and remember God. This act of salaat is one of the means of balancing our secular life with that of the religious or the material with that of the spiritual, etc, in a way of life that reduces both religion and Godless science to Reality.

All Muslims who go for Hajj also perform the same acts of salaat in addition to tawaaf. But we know, like the reason for Hajj is more than that, the salaat at our local masjid also has the same intention.

The other requirement of the Creed of Abraham is that it requires us to eliminate the secular and religious by superimposing the knowledge of science, religion, culture, politics, etc, one top of the other without creating any boundaries within and between them that make them separate and exclusive.

You don’t even believe in this Creed of Abraham. For example, in this forum, you believe God created primeval matter from “nothingness” meaning something “void” and “non-existent”. How does this superimpose with the knowledge of science in the Creed of Abraham? Likewise, in this forum, you believe that all plant and animal life evolved from a single cell like in Darwin’s Theory of Evolution. How does that reconcile with religion in the Creed of Abraham?

Like Ahle Hadith, you don’t believe in using the Creed of Abraham to in interpret the Qur’an. They use Hadith and their whims and fancies and you use the Arabic language and your whims and fancies.

Best Regards,
AK Sayed. (South Africa).

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Islam and salaat
A Sayed, South Africa -- Thursday, 28 September 2017, 8:39 am
Re: Islam and salaat
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 28 September 2017, 5:28 pm
Re: Islam and salaat (Jawaid Ahmed, uk)
A Sayed, South Africa -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 12:43 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 5:17 pm
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A Sayed, South Africa -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 6:40 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:13 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 9:36 pm
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A Sayed, South Africa -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 10:20 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 3:42 pm
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A Sayed, South Africa -- Sunday, 1 October 2017, 2:13 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 2 October 2017, 8:01 am
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A Sayed, South Africa -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 10:23 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:15 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 30 September 2017, 11:15 am
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 2 October 2017, 11:02 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 3 October 2017, 4:21 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 4 October 2017, 9:25 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 5 October 2017, 7:25 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 6 October 2017, 10:52 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 7 October 2017, 8:19 am