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Re: Salat, Tasbih, Birds, (Tahir) cont'd
By:Dawood, USA
Date: Monday, 25 September 2017, 10:38 pm
In Response To: Re: Salat, Tasbih, Birds, (Tahir) cont'd (Tahir Canada)

Tahir Bhai, your arguments have run their course.

Reference to 2:256 is irrelevant to our discussion. You earlier stance was related to Salat=following closely. This was refuted here:http://www.ourbeacon.com/cgi-bin/bbs60x/webbbs_config.pl/page/1/md/read/id/314123119247442

You wrote: “Are you sure that salat=ritual prayer is 1400 years old? You cannot prove that ritual prayer is 1400 years old unless you depend upon conjectures written in tafseer and hadith. The verses of The Quran about salat have to be understood in context. Please read all those verses with the context and see how Allah has made them clear for us to understand and follow them closely.”

This is trivial. It is older than 1400 years my dear brother. Tafseer and Hadith are at least 200 years removed from the book. Lexicons are based on language people spoke not on hadeeth and tafseer. Commands/injunctions of permanent nature don’t need context per se. Please familiarize yourself with the Quranic language and the way it repeats various injunctions/commands. I will get to those verses in another post as I move forward with various aspects of salat, time permitting.

You wrote: “Is following majority is the criteria to find the truth? Please reflect.”

Where did I make such a claim? Don’t bring irrelevant stuff.

You wrote: “I understand that Allama Iqbal lived Nov 9, 1877 - Apr 21, 1938 (age 60). His poetry reflects what he saw around him 1400 years after the prophet. Does it make a solid proof for your understanding.”

Although my reference was to a poet mentioned in Taj and not Iqbal, but you brought a novel and interesting suggestion. Allama Parwez is even after Allama Parwez. Should I discard his writings because these are recent? Or should there be some other criterion to judge?

Best Regards
Dawood

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Salat, Tasbih, Birds, (Tahir) cont'd
Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 13 September 2017, 9:50 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 14 September 2017, 3:39 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Saturday, 16 September 2017, 5:52 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 18 September 2017, 10:15 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 19 September 2017, 12:13 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 21 September 2017, 10:55 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 22 September 2017, 4:05 pm
Re: Salat, Tasbih, Birds, (Tahir) cont'd
Dawood, USA -- Monday, 25 September 2017, 10:12 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 26 September 2017, 7:17 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 9:25 pm
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Tahir Canada -- Tuesday, 19 September 2017, 1:49 am
Re: Salat, Tasbih, Birds, (Tahir) cont'd
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 19 September 2017, 3:39 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 21 September 2017, 11:25 pm
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Tahir Canada -- Friday, 22 September 2017, 7:36 pm
Re: Salat, Tasbih, Birds, (Tahir) cont'd
Dawood, USA -- Monday, 25 September 2017, 10:38 pm
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Tahir Canada -- Tuesday, 26 September 2017, 6:22 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 29 September 2017, 9:27 pm