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Re: Salat= duty, sam gerrans
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Saturday, 24 June 2017, 8:40 am
In Response To: Re: Salat= duty, sam gerrans (Dawood, USA)

If I cannot make you think straight at least I can make you laugh, mulla Dawood!LOL

You wrote “Haha Lies....?”
But you made no comment regarding what Parwez Saheeb wrote and what Dr Shabbir continuously writes in his translation.
Any intellectual comments on the following:

Parwez, under Salat, s.l.w, says everything knows its DUTIES, same as Sam Gerrans.
Surah An-Noor says:
24:41 Have you not noticed that Allah is the one Who is being followed by whatever there is in (& on) the earth and the heavens, and birds with wings spread out, each one knows its salaat and tasbeeh اَلَمْ تَرَاَنَّ اللّٰهَ یُسِبِّحُ لَهُ مَنْ فِی السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالْاَرْضِ وَالطَّیْرُ صٰفّٰتٍ ۔ کُلٌّ قَدْ عَلِمَ صَلَاتَهُ وَتَسْبِیْحَهٌ
This means that everything in the universe KNOWS ITS DUTIES very well as this is inbuilt within them. It knows which path it must traverse and what its destiny is. These things have been called their “صلوٰۃ” (salaah) and “تَسْبِیْحٌ” (tasbeeh). However in the case of human beings since we have a free will therefore we cannot be restrained through an inbuilt guidance for example like birds and animals. While our physical body follows the physical laws our self (consists of ‘I’, emotions, thoughts, memory – more details under N-F-S) being nonphysical does not follow these laws and needs external guidance as an option, which can be accepted through the use of our free volition. In other words to know our “صلوٰۃ” (salaah) and “تَسْبِیْحٌ” (tasbeeh), we need to first have a desire to explore the alternatives available to us as a guidance and then using our intellect and reasoning accept the permanent values given in the Quran. There is nothing inbuilt within us which can direct us to the Quran automatically as this goes against the free will. Since each human being is endowed with this self, he/she has to make a choice at some stage of their life if they wish to make a different choice or are quite happy and satisfied with their existing choice i.e. the choices of the society around them, The Quran has referred to this point at many places e.g. (74:37), (83:26), 78:39). The human self can only develop when it willingly makes a choice to live within the permanent values of the Quran.

2:138 Hue of God! And who can give a better hue (to life) than God? And it is He alone Whom we serve.
[Hue of God = We take our hue from God. Nearest to God are those who have adopted His Sibghah = Hue or Color = His attributes in the human capacity. (2:138, 83:28). That means adopting the Divine Attributes in our limited human capacity such as: kindness – empathy - creativity – mercy - forgiveness – turning to people in love and affection – (attaining) wisdom - kindness - effort - concealment of sins - justice - bounteousness - generosity - greatness - love - glory - dignity - insight - and all other goodness and beauty are attributes of God. Knowledge (learning) – compassion – clemency – taking care - peacefulness – remaining aware – SENSE OF DUTY - determination – honesty – protecting others – generosity – unity - self-control – leniency - approachability - appreciation – moral strength – patience - showing light – guiding - independence – truthfulness – maintenance of people and things – keeping pledges – resolve – benefiting others – beautiful designing – providing – listening – observing – being worthy of trust – nobility of character – giving – and sense of responsibility. Interestingly, people can make a self-assessment by this spectrum as to where they stand on the ascending ladder of (Tazkiah) self-actualization or personal development]

2:238 Guard your duties pertaining to the family life (221-237) and the CENTRAL DUTY OF REMAINING VIGILANT IN OBEYING DIVINE COMMANDS. [‘Salaat-il-wusta’ is not ‘Asr]

All say we have duties to perform to be muslim.

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m ahmed -- Tuesday, 20 June 2017, 2:43 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Wednesday, 21 June 2017, 7:50 pm
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Mohammad IL -- Thursday, 22 June 2017, 3:38 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 22 June 2017, 7:21 am
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Mohammad IL -- Thursday, 22 June 2017, 3:45 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 22 June 2017, 8:39 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 June 2017, 7:14 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 23 June 2017, 11:17 pm
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Dawood, USA -- Thursday, 22 June 2017, 8:37 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 June 2017, 7:36 am
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Dawood, USA -- Friday, 23 June 2017, 11:07 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Saturday, 24 June 2017, 8:40 am
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Dawood, USA -- Monday, 26 June 2017, 7:19 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 27 June 2017, 8:29 am
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Dawood, USA -- Tuesday, 27 June 2017, 9:41 pm
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Ilyas Husain -- Saturday, 10 March 2018, 5:32 pm
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Zia, Tx -- Monday, 12 March 2018, 3:53 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 13 March 2018, 8:57 am
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Zia, TX -- Tuesday, 13 March 2018, 6:47 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 14 March 2018, 8:59 am
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Ilyas Husain -- Tuesday, 13 March 2018, 11:31 am
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Zia,TX -- Tuesday, 13 March 2018, 6:28 pm
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Ilyas Husain -- Wednesday, 14 March 2018, 2:09 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 14 March 2018, 3:53 pm