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Re: Manmade Haram
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Thursday, 17 May 2012, 8:28 am
In Response To: Manmade Haram (*Dr. Shabbir, Florida)

Dr Saab, Tayyab’ = Clean, decent, wholesome, pleasing, aesthetically good, OF YOUR CHOICE.

2:168 Ya ayyuha alnnasu kuloo mimma fee al-ardi halalan tayyiban wala tattabiAAoo khutuwati alshshaytani innahu lakum AAaduwwun mubeenun
I have these two translations of the same verse from you good self

2:168 (Declaring things Permissible or Forbidden is trying to ‘rival’ God.) O Mankind! Partake and enjoy the Lawful and decent things of the earth, and do not follow the footsteps of the Satan. Indeed, he is an open enemy to you.
[Satan, the rebellious desire, and satanic people lead people into transgressing. Mubeen = Open = Obvious = Known = Sure 7:22]
2:168O' Mankind! (In matters of eating and drinking, FOLLOW THAT THE QUR’AN IS TELLING YOU, AND NOT WHAT PEOPLE SAY). Eat of what is on earth, Lawful, clean, wholesome, decent and pleasing, and of your liking, and let not your selfish desire lead your reason and judgment, step by step into error. Behold, your rebellious desire (Satan) is an enemy that lays bare even your hidden imperfections. (‘Tayyab’ = Clean, decent, wholesome, pleasing, aesthetically good, of your choice).

Following the commandments of what is forbidden from 5:3, and looking at 2:168 above I see personal choice. As I stated in my above post, I do not like some foods which others do, but since the Quran does not forbid them then I cannot make them haram, neither can anyone else [Rabbi, priest, Mullah etc], this would be:-
9:31 They take their rabbis, priests and monks to be their Lords* besides God. And they take as their Lord, the Messiah son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God. There is no god but He. Praise and Glory to Him, He is far too Glorious for what they ascribe to Him.
[*Talmud shows the Jewish superstition of ascribing divinity to Ezra, rabbis, saints, doctors of law and learned men. And the doctrine of Papal infallibility, divinity of saints and praying to them are common in the Roman Catholic Church]
9:32 They seek to extinguish God’s Light (the Qur’an) by their utterances. But God will not allow this to pass, for He has willed to spread His Light in all its fullness even though the rejecters may detest it.

We can also look at:-
5:87 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Do not deprive yourselves of the good things of life that God has made Lawful to you. But commit no excesses. God does not love those who exceed the limits. [Self-mortification by ascetics, monks and mystics is not the way to ‘purify’ the ‘soul’]
5:88 Thus, partake of the Lawful, good things that God grants you as sustenance. And be conscious of God, in Whom you are believers.

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Manmade Haram
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 11:33 am
Manmade Haram
*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 11:39 am
Re: Manmade Haram
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 17 May 2012, 8:28 am
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Mujahid (RSA) -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 1:40 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Thursday, 17 May 2012, 7:48 am
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Mubashir, Canada -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 3:32 pm
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Helen, UK -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 4:29 pm
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*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 4:45 pm
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Helen, UK -- Wednesday, 16 May 2012, 8:17 pm
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jawaid ahmed, uk -- Thursday, 17 May 2012, 7:46 am
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Helen, UK -- Friday, 18 May 2012, 10:31 am