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Re: Namaz / Salaat
By:jawaid ahmed,uk
Date: Monday, 26 March 2012, 7:55 am
In Response To: Re: Namaz / Salaat (Fatimah, Malaysia)

There is nothing silly about wanting to learn and I am continually challenging what I know and believe. My personal thoughts are reflected in my posts which I always try to back up by the Quran; it is my Judge in all things. Others may disagree and I respect their viewpoint and leave it up to the readers to work things out for themselves; there is no compulsion in Islam.

[You stated in 9f of your 1st post in this thread: " at other places it also refers to
the offering of prayers as well as other duties which are a part of the whole system."]

The reference is from the dictionary of the Quran by Allama GAP who accepted some form physical devotion to Allah which he described as prayers. He stated that the form of prayers we have had handed down to us by our ancestors is incorrect since they are not Quranically sanctioned BUT in order to avoid creating more division within the Muslim Ummah [!] he said we should continue with them until such a time when the real Salat of the Quran will be understood and implemented. I disagree with this. Putting the Quran into practice requires us to remove any wrongs we are doing [burying new born baby girls, idol worship etc] and ritualised namaz is not reminding us of Allah five times a day since we do not read something new and practical each time we do so, but only repeat the same words like a parrot [if we reflected upon the words each time then some good may come of it, but this is not even done]. Finger and other body positions are also given more importance than understanding the Quran so no advance in humanity comes about.

Your answer is that there are no physical prayers to be done. Each human being is required to understand the Quran and implement it in their own capacity, through community services, charitable acts, helping others to understand right from wrong etc. Whatever benefits you and humanity is an Islamic form of ‘worship’. Allah does not need your devotion to His name by way of prayers, this belongs to the age of kings, He requires us, as our Teacher and Guide, to follow His instruction manual.

Messages In This Thread

Namaz / Salaat
Bilal Jamil, Oman -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 7:18 am
Re: Namaz / Salaat
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 12:34 pm
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Husna Jamil, Bulgaria -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 2:51 pm
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Bilal Jamil, Oman -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 3:45 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 4:20 pm
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UZAIR GHOLE -- Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 4:12 pm
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Irfan -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 7:24 pm
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Parween Iqbal, Holland -- Saturday, 24 March 2012, 12:00 am
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Irfan -- Saturday, 24 March 2012, 1:46 am
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saed -- Sunday, 25 March 2012, 7:34 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 3:46 pm
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Bilal Jamil, Oman -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 4:31 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 4:00 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 5:59 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 10:02 pm
Namaz / Salaat / Manasik
*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Saturday, 24 March 2012, 12:42 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 26 March 2012, 8:45 am
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Fatimah, Malaysia -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 11:55 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 26 March 2012, 7:55 am
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Fatimah, Malaysia -- Monday, 26 March 2012, 3:16 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Monday, 26 March 2012, 3:01 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 27 March 2012, 1:48 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Tuesday, 27 March 2012, 3:27 pm
Namaz / Salaat - Al-Ma'oon
*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Friday, 23 March 2012, 6:18 pm