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Where Does Morality Come From?
By:*Dr. Shabbir, Florida
Date: Monday, 12 March 2012, 11:57 am
In Response To: Where Does Morality Come From (shahalam, TX)

Richard Dawkins is fundamentally flawed when he tries to sail the Bible and the Qur'an in the same boat. I didn't know that Dawkins could be so dumb.

The Qur'an tells us that messengers were sent to every community. So, whatever we hear of good morality today, almost surely derives itself from the ancient messengers' noble teachings that survived.

My rebuttal could be very long but very numerous examples of atrocious punishments for minor crimes can be found in my reader friendly book, THUS SPEAKS THE BIBLE.

Allow me to take some of your valuable time.

DEUTERONOMY
A stubborn son
21:18 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey ----:
21:20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: ----.

Kill the apostate family members
13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, ----;
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; ----.

Kill the infidels
13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city [thy city that serves other gods] with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, ----, with the edge of the sword.
13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, ----.
17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman [that worshipped other gods], ----, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

Kill the thief
24:7 If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you. [The Mullahs would only chop a hand]

EXODUS
Punishment of apostasy
32:27 ----, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

LEVITICUS
Eat the flesh of your children, the furious Lord
26:29 [If the Lord became furious for disobedience] And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.

JOSHUA
Plunder, looting, killing and pilferage
6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
6:24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: ----.
7:24 And Joshua, and all Israel with him, took Achan the son of Zerah, and the silver, and the garment, and the wedge of gold, and his sons, and his daughters, ----, and all that he had: ----.
7:25 ----, and [all Israel] burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones.

EZEKIEL
Cannibalism
5:10 Therefore the fathers shall eat the sons in the midst of thee, and the sons shall eat their fathers; ----.
5:11 ----; neither shall mine eye spare, neither will I have any pity.

Messages In This Thread

Where Does Morality Come From
shahalam, TX -- Sunday, 11 March 2012, 6:47 pm
Where Does Morality Come From?
*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Monday, 12 March 2012, 11:57 am
Where Does Morality - OK, Now Some Funny Stuff
*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Monday, 12 March 2012, 12:03 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 12 March 2012, 12:48 pm
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Hicham, Copenhagen -- Monday, 12 March 2012, 4:31 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 12 March 2012, 12:54 pm
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 12 March 2012, 1:10 pm
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Noman Waseem, New Jersey -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, 2:14 am
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Noman Waseem, New Jersey -- Tuesday, 13 March 2012, 3:09 am