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Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah !!! Help ?
By:Zuhaib Sabri
Date: Sunday, 4 March 2012, 8:58 pm

Salamun Alaikum!

I got this reply while discussing (and questioning) the authenticity of Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim etc.

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Q&A
Q: ( I AND A REVERT RAISED TO OTHERS)

If Ahadith were so much of importance then how come Allah called Deen to be Complete while bukhari was not even there untill 200 years (approx)?
If we cannot understand Quran without the help of Ahadith, How did Messenger(s) understand it ?
What about his Companions ?
Why Rasool Allah forbid his followers to write anything except Quran to be the word of Allah and Rasool ?
What about the people who lived untill Bukhari came ?

A: ( OTHERS REPLIED )
Allah says in the Quran at various places that "O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you".
(The Holy Quran, Surah 4. "The Women", verse 59)
As we believe that Quran is the truth, we must follow it's every verse..
Now, let us come to your first question..

"If Ahadith were so much of importance then how come Allah called Deen to be Complete while bukhari was not even there untill 200 years (approx)?"
The Deen was complete when Allah sent down the verse “This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion.” (Holy Qur'an 5:3)

Now u have to understand that ahadith(the reports of the Prophet's sayings and deeds are called ahadith) are part of the Deen..as Deen includes following the Messenger of Allah(pbuh)..
Imam Bukhari was just a man who compiled all the ahadith in one book..the ahadith were not something new but always there...he just compiled only the authentic hadith in the form of a book..

Now, ur second question..
"If we cannot understand Quran without the help of Ahadith, How did Messenger(s) understand it ?"

Well, that's a pretty lame question..are you intending to question the Messenger of Allah(pbuh)?? Allah chose him for his mission and the chosen one ought to understand his duties...and he carried them out in the perfect manner...no other man could do what he had done in his very short life...pbuh...

Ur third question..
"What about his Companions ? "
The companions took many pains to understand the Quran...they didnt grasped it immediately and at times they disagreed with the Prophet of Allah(SAW) regarding some of the verses..
We have to believe that it is Allah who grants understanding and wisdom..
There are various incidents of companions trying to learn Quran and it is said that one companion took almost 14 years for just understanding Surah Baqarah!! 14 years...

Ur fourth question..
"Why Rasool Allah forbid his followers to write anything except Quran to be the word of Allah and Rasool ? "
Well, if he had not forbidden them, how would we have distinguished between truth and falsehood??

Ur last question..
"What about the people who lived untill Bukhari came ?"

I have already written that ahadith were always there.. Imam Bukhari just collected them...so, the people who lived before Bukhari have all the ahadith...
Hope I have removed all your doubts and may Allah grant you understanding of his Deen and protect you from the tricks of Satan :)

Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah

Why Do We Have To Follow The Sunnah Of Prophet Muhammad And Not Just Follow The Qur'an?

The question may appear strange and somewhat surprising to committed, practising Muslims. How can something which is so obviously one of the bases of Islaam become a matter for discussion and debate? But since the question has been asked, we will present, with the help of Allah, the principles and bases of the importance of the Sunnah, the obligation to follow it and the ruling concerning those who reject it. By so doing, we will also refute the doubters and the misguided group who call themselves “Submitters” (the Qur’an has nothing to do with them!) Insha'Allah this discussion will be of benefit to everyone who wants to understand the truth of the matter.

Proof of the importance of the Sunnah from the Qur'an itself:

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allah...” [4:80] Allah described obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) as being a part of obedience to Him. Then He made a connection between obedience to Him and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him): “O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger...” [4:59]

Allah warns us not to go against the Prophet (peace be upon him), and states that whoever disobeys him will be doomed to eternal Hell. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “...And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [24:63]

Allah has made obedience to His Prophet a religious duty; resisting or opposing it is a sign of hypocrisy: ”But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you [Muhammad] judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [4:65]

Allah commands His slaves to respond to Him and His Messenger: “O you who believe! Answer Allah (by obeying Him) and (His) Messenger when he calls you to that which will give you life...” [8:24]

Allah also commands His slaves to refer all disputes to him: “... (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger...” [4:59]

Allah also calls all people who accept Allah but refute the Messenger as 'Real Kafirs': “Verily, those who deny Allâh and His Messengers and (those who) wish to separate Allah from His Messengers (by believing in Allâh and disbelieving in His Messengers), saying: "We believe in some but reject others": and (those who) wish to adopt a way in between. They are in truth (equally) Unbelievers; and We have prepared for Unbelievers a humiliating Punishment. To those who believe in Allah and His Messengers and make no distinction between any of the Messengers, We shall soon give their (due) rewards: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful.” [4:150-153]

In a nutsell: Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah only. You will see that all groups who deviated from Islam are violating this rule. Shi'a replace the Sunnah with their Imams and some fabricated narrations. Extremist Sufis replace the Qur'an and the Sunnah with their Shaikhs (leaders). The Submitters reject the Sunnah from the equation and claim to follow the Qur'an only. All of those who reject the Sunnah are NOT Muslims.

http://www.islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/quran_sunnah.htm

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NOW I HAVE FOLLOWING VERSES FROM QURAN TO REFUTE

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN THE GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of The God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (Quran, 6:114-116)

"When our verses are recited for them, those who do not expect to meet us would say, 'Bring a Quran other than this, or change it.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I cannot change it on my own initiative. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of a terrible day.' ...Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God, or rejects His revelations? The guilty never succeed. Yet, they idolize beside God those who possess no power to harm them or benefit them, and say, 'These are our intercessors with God.' ...such is idol-worship." (Quran, 10:15-18)

"The Book We have revealed to you explains everything; a
Guide and grace and the glad tiding for all those who have submitted." (Quran, 16:89)

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards
Zuhaib Sabri

Messages In This Thread

Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah !!! Help ?
Zuhaib Sabri -- Sunday, 4 March 2012, 8:58 pm
Re: Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah !!! Help ?
jawaid ahmed,uk -- Monday, 5 March 2012, 8:44 am
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Helen, UK -- Monday, 5 March 2012, 11:19 am
Elementary, my dear Watson!
Harriss, Canada -- Tuesday, 6 March 2012, 5:23 am
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jawaid ahmed,uk -- Tuesday, 6 March 2012, 9:07 am
Re: Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah !! .... Note of Thanks
Zuhaib Sabri -- Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 6:16 am
Re: Islam = Qur'an + Sunnah !!! Help ?
Noman Waseem, New Jersey -- Wednesday, 7 March 2012, 3:31 am