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Re: Namaz - No information is enough
By:Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE
Date: Thursday, 17 February 2011, 6:29 pm
In Response To: Re: Namaz - No information is enough (Mubashir, Toronto)

Salaam;

(Please don't assume that this forum is anti ritual and anti namaaz.) by Mubashir

I am not assuming it, rather I believe that this forum is against all the concepts of myths, dogmas and rituals. Namaaz is a Persian word and it has got nothing to do with Quran or Islam (It is an invention of ancient Persian Imams).These rituals serve no purpose except division. All the Christians, Jews, Hindus etc. worship their Gods the same way you do. Whats the difference between you and them? Why you are not talking about the real issues? Why you are not discussing how to implement the system based on improved social values and economic welfare? You are not talking about reformation of society? You don't talk about removing injustice, inequality, class differences etc. You've never discussed provision of basic necessities of life to every individual. Rather your focus is Rituals alone! What kind of message you are trying to convey? You want the members to adopt the concept of Namaaz based Islam again? Where did you get the method of your namaaz? Where is this word in Quran? Where are the instructions for your namaaz in Quran?

All those who believe in personal salvation through prayers are worshiping their own Gods separately. They are not following what Quran says;

قُلْ أَىُّ شَىْءٍ أَكْبَرُ شَهَٰدَةً قُلِ ٱللَّهُ شَهِيدٌۢ بَيْنِى وَبَيْنَكُمْ وَأُوحِىَ إِلَىَّ هَٰذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانُ لِأُنذِرَكُم بِهِ وۦَمَنۢ بَلَغَ أَئِنَّكُمْ لَتَشْهَدُونَ أَنَّ مَعَ ٱللَّهِ ءَالِهَةً أُخْرَىٰ قُل لَّآ أَشْهَدُ قُلْ إِنَّمَا هُوَ إِلَٰهٌ وَٰحِدٌ وَإِنَّنِى بَرِىٓءٌ مِّمَّا تُشْرِكُونَ (6:19

Not sure about others but at least I will resist all your attempts to promote N2I concepts of rituals. I am not a blind follower and I do believe in what Quran says;

إِنَّ شَرَّ ٱلدَّوَآبِّ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ ٱلصُّمُّ ٱلْبُكْمُ ٱلَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ (8:22 ... The worst of created beings in the Sight of Allah are the deaf and the dumb, those who do not use their intellect.

And yes!
Please don't forget to read what Brother Jawaid has posted above. (Try and understand what he has quoted)

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Namaz - No information is enough
Mubashir, Canada -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 12:08 am
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Jawaid Ahmed, UK -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 8:29 am
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Hicham, Denmark -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 1:09 pm
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 3:28 pm
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Mubashir, Toronto -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 4:29 pm
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 6:29 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Thursday, 17 February 2011, 10:57 pm
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*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Friday, 18 February 2011, 2:16 am
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Jawaid Ahmed, UK -- Friday, 18 February 2011, 9:22 am
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*Dr. Shabbir, Florida -- Friday, 18 February 2011, 1:39 pm
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Friday, 18 February 2011, 3:20 am
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Mubashir, Canada -- Friday, 18 February 2011, 6:00 pm
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Friday, 18 February 2011, 9:10 pm
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Mubashir, Canada -- Saturday, 19 February 2011, 12:45 am
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Amirabbas, Iran -- Saturday, 19 February 2011, 3:39 am
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Sardar Fatimi -- Saturday, 19 February 2011, 6:31 pm
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Sardar Fatimi USA -- Sunday, 20 February 2011, 12:09 am
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Sunday, 20 February 2011, 3:48 am
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Sunday, 20 February 2011, 3:14 am
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Rubina - UK -- Sunday, 20 February 2011, 7:30 pm
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Waqas Raja -- Monday, 21 February 2011, 7:12 am
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Ali Syed -- Tuesday, 22 February 2011, 2:27 am
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Jawaid Ahmed, UK -- Tuesday, 22 February 2011, 1:46 pm
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Sardar Fatimi USA -- Thursday, 24 February 2011, 7:45 pm
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Thursday, 24 February 2011, 11:53 pm
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Sardar Fatimi USA -- Friday, 25 February 2011, 12:21 am
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Friday, 25 February 2011, 2:27 am
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Tuesday, 22 February 2011, 4:57 pm
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Junaid Malik, Pakistan/UAE -- Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 7:08 pm
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Ali Syed New Jersey -- Wednesday, 23 February 2011, 1:46 pm
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