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Nabuwwat Vs Risalat
By:Jawaid Ahmed
Date: Thursday, 3 June 2010, 7:51 am
In Response To: Re: Qadianis/Ahmedis....Shias (Reply from Ahmadi) (Tauseef Ahmad)

To Tauseef Ahmad

I found this article on one of your beliefs mentioned above and would like your considered comments on where you disagree with its reasoning. This will help us understand the differences that exist, since we should engage in ‘jaw, jaw, not war, war’.

Nabuwwat Vs Risalat

We know that certain sects try to confuse the issue of Nabuwwat (Prophethood) and Risaalat (Messengership) in order to push their theological agenda.

There is no difference between a NABI and RASUL as a person. It is the two attributes of one and the same human being. The English term APOSTLE embraces both.

When an apostle of God receives a revelation, the news, he is a NABI, and when he conveys it to people, he is a RASUL. According to the Qur'an, every NABI was a RASUL and every RASUL was a NABI.

A FRANK ERROR: Some people assert that a RASUL came without a book and a NABI came with a Book. But there is no difference between them; it's the same person bearing two offices.

4:163 We have sent you the revelation as We sent it to Noah and the Prophets after him. We sent revelations to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his progeny (the Tribes), Jesus, Job (Ayub), Jonah (Yunus), Aaron, and Solomon; and to David We gave Zaboor. [Zaboor = The Psalms = A book of Divine wisdom]

4:165 All these Messengers gave good news, as well as warning, so that humans would not have an argument against God, after the Messengers conveyed to them the guidance. God is Almighty, Wise.

Then, there are too many verses indicating that there is no difference between a NABI and RASUL.
This one should suffice:

19:54 And make mention in the Book, of Ishmael. He was truthful in his pledge, and he was a Messenger, a Prophet.
19:51 And make mention in this Book, of Moses. Surely, he was sincerely devoted and a Prophet bearing Our message.
19:52 We called and blessed him with revelation by the Mount Sinai and made him draw near to Us to converse in secret. [Right side of the Mount allegorically indicates a blessing]
19:53 And We bestowed upon him of Our mercy his brother, Aaron, a Prophet as well.
19:54 And make mention in the Book, of Ishmael. He was truthful in his pledge, and he was a Prophet bearing Our message.

3:49 And He (Jesus) will be a Messenger to the Children of Israel. He will say to them, “I come to you with revelation from your Lord. If you follow me, I will raise you from dust to the heights of glory by the command of God (7:176). The blind among you will begin to see the truth. Those of you who are spotted with sin, I will heal them, and I shall grant real life to those who are just dragging on without purpose; all by God’s leave, according to His laws. I am here to establish justice and equity. I shall see to it how much you hoard in your houses and how much you spend on the community. My teachings are sufficient signs for you to believe.”
21:48 We gave Moses and Aaron the Criterion of right and wrong, and a light and reminder for those who wished to live upright.

2:246 (Sustained commitment to the Divine Order with wealth and person is not an easy undertaking.) After the times of Moses, some leaders of the Israelites promised their Prophet (Samuel), “If you appoint a king for us, we will fight in the cause of God.” The Prophet said, “Is it your intention to refrain from fighting if it was decreed to you?” They said’ “Why should we not fight in the cause of God when we have been driven out of our homes with our children?” Yet when fighting was ordained for them, they turned away all but a few. God is Aware of the wrongdoers.

2:253 (All Messengers were one in purpose. They were assigned different strategies suitable to their times, locations and people.) We caused some of those Messengers to excel others. God spoke to some of them. Others He raised in degrees of high honor. Jesus son of Mary was one of those Messengers whom We gave clear signs of truth and helped him with Noble revelation. If God had so willed, the later generations would not have fought among themselves after clear evidence of the truth had come to them. But they chose to differ, some believing and others rejecting. Yet, if God had so willed, they would not have fought each other. But God does everything according to His laws.

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Nabuwwat Vs Risalat
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