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Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
By:Noman Waseem
Date: Wednesday, 21 April 2010, 3:18 pm
In Response To: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution (Arsalan Shaukat, ex-Muslim, UK )

Dear Sir,

I hope you will take the time to read the replies to your post as you might be pleasantly surprised. While I can’t speak for all members of this forum, I hope simply to relate to you the perspective of someone who is both a scientist at heart and who has a heart that is strongly inclined towards Islam, all without an ounce of cognitive dissonance.

To be frank, I don’t see the big deal behind evolution, not because it’s a weak theory, or in any attempt to belittle the insights of Darwin. But it’s because in my mind, with all the evidence in its support, both academic as well as from Qur’anic text, its existence is simply plain for my eyes to see. You could say it’s an obvious truth, and again, without an ounce of cognitive dissonance.

Of course for this to make sense, you would have to deeply consider Dr. Shabbir’s response, as he clearly highlights the need for a translation of the Qur’an from someone who both understands the big pictures of evolution and of the big picture of the Qur’an. Now I would also like to respond to specific statements you made in your post.

“Darwin’s Theory of Evolution stripped man of its supposed ‘special place’ among the fauna and flora of the world and placed us among other living creatures. What this translates into is that we do not require invoking any sort of Allah to explain why or how we came about….Furthermore, the very concept of ‘Evolution’ has transcended the bounds of just being a part of theory of evolution; it has become an integral part of our modern way of understanding reality. In physics, physicists, talk about evolution of galaxies and stars;’ in music, musicians talk about evolution of ‘music’; and so on and so forth.”

While I see a few philosophical holes of logic in your above statements, I’ll stick with the fundamental issue; you seem to present Darwin’s theory, rather than a general theory of evolution, as a make-or-break for your position on Islam. Furthermore, you go on to present this theory as some sort of boundless theory that is relevant to all domains of human thought and inquiry. I’ve seen this before and don’t find the thought Darwin’s theory being touted as the “theory of everything” to be very pleasing. There was an article I read some time ago that highlighted the danger in this but can’t seem to find it. This served me well since I found a very similar article through a quick google search; the quick and easy find of course should highlight for you how prevalent *western* thought is against Darwin’s theory being anything more than what it has ever been: a scientific theory. Here’s a link to the article for your kind reference:

http://www.vision.org/visionmedia/article.aspx?id=322

There is a subtle but critical difference here; it’s understandable if you said that if the Qur’an contradicts a general theory of evolution, for which there is ample scientific evidence, then one can only reject it as a system of life. It is another thing entirely if you said that you would reject the Qur’an if it contradicted *Darwin’s theory* of evolution to the letter. This is simply a logical fallacy, as a scientist you should understand better than most that theories were never meant to be used to make arguments towards an absolute position. No scientist today will, or at least should, refer to Darwin’s *law* of evolution, for it’s not a law like the law of gravity. Again, this amounts to making Darwin’s theory more than what it is, if not dogma.

The point of all this is that even if the Qur’an did not support Darwin’s theory to the letter, it clearly supports a general theory of evolution. I for one have no qualms about the understanding that humans both hold a special place on earth as well as knowing that we evolved at some point from the animals we see around us.

“All ex-Muslim atheists and anti-islamists, especially those who are well versed in medical sciences; must understand this powerful and beautiful scientific theory and defend it against this ugly barrage of Islamist creationist propaganda. …We need ex-Muslims and critics of Islam; especially those with some basis in biological sciences, like Wafa Sultan, to come forward and defend Evolution against Islam.”

I find it rather discouraging that you have twice excluded Muslims from the responsibility of spreading an accurate understanding of evolution. There should be no specific “need” for ex-Muslims and critics of Islam assuming your intentions here are sincere.

“In the face of truth, the falsehood shall be vanquished. “

In this Sir, I agree with you whole-heartedly.

Take care,

Noman Waseem

Messages In This Thread

Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
Arsalan Shaukat, ex-Muslim, UK -- Tuesday, 20 April 2010, 9:25 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - 1
Dr Shabbir -- Tuesday, 20 April 2010, 9:53 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
mohammad -- Wednesday, 21 April 2010, 3:28 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
shahalam -- Wednesday, 21 April 2010, 11:09 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - 2
Dr Shabbir -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 1:00 am
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - 2
UmeAimon -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 4:20 am
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - 1
Zubair -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 3:35 am
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - 3
Dr Shabbir -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 1:43 pm
Darwinism: Science or Myth?
Zubair -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 1:51 pm
The Truth About Darwinism
Zubair -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 6:09 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution - 3
Shahu Nadir -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 9:56 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
Zakkeer Syed -- Wednesday, 21 April 2010, 6:53 am
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
MUHAMMAD RAFI -- Wednesday, 21 April 2010, 7:42 am
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
Noman Waseem -- Wednesday, 21 April 2010, 3:18 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution
Jawaid Ahmed -- Thursday, 22 April 2010, 7:45 am
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Nawab Ahmad -- Friday, 23 April 2010, 12:43 am
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution-1
Dr Shabbir -- Friday, 23 April 2010, 1:50 pm
Re: Darwin's Theory Of Evolution or DARWINISM?
Salman Farrukh -- Thursday, 29 April 2010, 6:16 pm
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