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Islam: What The West Needs To Know - Rebuttal 12
By:Dr Shabbir
Date: Saturday, 17 April 2010, 3:49 pm

REBUTTAL - 12
May 4th, 2008 by Dr. Shabbir

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-871902797772997781

Ms Condoleeza Rice in a Press Conference: We are a country that judges people not by their religious beliefs or by their color, but by the fact that we’re all Americans. …. Islam stands for peace and stands for non-violence, we wanted to make that very, very clear.

Mr. Robert Spencer: … There are, in short, peaceful and moderate Muslims, but no peaceful and moderate Islam. … Syed Qutb, the Egyptian Muslim theorist, whose writings are revered by radical Muslims today, by terrorists today, …

Answer: Dear Sir, if you reflect with an unbiased mind on the Primary Source of Islam, the Compassionate Qur’an, you will say that Islam is nothing but peaceful and moderate. We have given sufficient examples in the Rebuttal so far. Some criminal freaks have always been violent regardless of their religion. Syed Qutb faced the gallows at the hands of a Muslim court for his attempts at rebellion. His ‘hegemony’ was limited to toppling the government of Gemal Abd-el-Nasir and seek power in Egypt. I think, a proponent of the barbaric man-made Shari’ah who is convicted by an Islamic court for inciting rebellion, is not worth reading, and such is the case.

Mr. Walid Shoebat: …, the jurisprudence of Islam clearly state emphatically that the “verse of the sword” (9:5) made null and void all the peaceful verses.

Answer: Dear Sir, we have talked sufficiently about the so-called “verse of the sword”, and that not a single verse of the Qur’an has been or can ever be abrogated. Again, 9:5 applies only to the idolaters who would repeatedly make peace treaties with Muslims and then conduct surprise attacks on them. Also, please notice the compassion in the next verse again, granting security if they wish, even to such dangerous elements.

9:6 (O Messenger) if anyone of the idolaters seeks your protection or a safe passage, grant him protection from the State. Convey to him the Word of God, and then escort him to where he feels safe and secure. This kindness on your part is mandatory because they are people who do not know (and have not yet seen the beauty of the Divine System).
Studio Voice & Image repeat 9:5: …..

Walid Shoebat: Kill them, when you see them, wherever you find them. This is not an allegoric kill, it’s a literal kill. …. They really want to revive Islam as it used to be. This is what they call as Islamic Fundamentalism.

Answer: If any people are forced to defend an armed attack, you are right, then it’s a literal kill on both sides. What is surprising about that, and what does it have to do with Islamic Fundamentalism?
Studio Voice & Image: 5:33 The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they should be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on the opposite sides or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter.

Studio Voice & Image: Al-Bukhari Vol 8 Bk 82 Hadith 795
The prophet cut off the hands and feet of the men belonging to the tribe of Uraina and did not cauterize (their bleeding limbs) until they died.

Answer: We have seen from the Six Books of Hadith that the exalted Prophet never even pricked a person with a needle. Any Hadith that contradicts the Qur’an is nothing but forgery. Moreover, this particular Hadith also contradicts hundreds of Ahadith depicting the compassion and forgiving actions of the exalted Prophet.
5:33 talks about rebellion against the State and bloody crimes (Fasaad). Those who commit bloody crimes on earth, deserve strict punishment. You will agree with that. Please notice ‘opposite sides’ pointing toward immobilizing such criminals by putting them in prison. And kindly notice the peaceful option of exile, in the verse. [Note: Even these criminals could be pardoned if they present themselves to the authorities before getting arrested! 4:17, 4:64]

Mr Abdullah Al-Araby: There is no assurance of what is known in Christianity as salvation and insurance of being saved and guaranteeing going to heaven. However, there are certain things that can help. So, if a Muslim, for instance, died while he was practicing Jihad, he is supposed to go to paradise.

Mr Walid Shoebat: In Islamist thinking, the assurance of your salvation is dying as a martyr. In accordance to the verse in the Quran, “Do not think that the ones who died in the cause of Allah, in Jihad, are dead but are living.”
So, this assures salvation.

Answer: Dear Sirs, respectfully speaking, you are mistaken. The Qur’an is replete with verses guaranteeing Paradise to men and women who do acts of social welfare and benefit humanity. Here are only three out of hundreds of examples.

2:62 (That was a glimpse of the past.) Those who believe (in the Qur’an and call themselves Muslims), and those who are Jews, and Christians and the Sabians; whoever truly believes in God and the Last Day and does works that benefit humanity, their reward is with their Lord. For them shall be no fear from without, nor shall grief touch them from within.

3:15 Say (O Messenger), “Shall I inform you of something better than these, with which the upright will be rewarded by their Lord? - Gardens with flowing streams beneath, where they will live forever with spouses of spotless character and the blissful approval of God. God is Seer of His servants.”

5:69 Those who attain belief and call themselves Muslims and those who are Jews, and the Sabians, and Christians - whoever believes in God and the Last Day, and does works that benefit humanity, for them shall be no fear from without, nor shall grief touch them from within.

Robert Spencer: This is the calculus behind modern suicide bombing. Many people will say, modern Muslim advocates will say that Islam forbids suicide. And this is plainly dishonest because all the advocates, all the defenders of suicide bombing in the Islamic world, start out by saying “This is not suicide, this is the intention of the person is not to kill himself, the intention of the person is to kill others. And that is sanctioned because this is Islamic Jihad.”…

Answer: Dear Sir, no Muslim would endorse the killing of non-combatants, and hence, suicide bombings. Social renegade conduct these deplorable attacks mostly in Muslim countries and most of their victims are innocent Muslims. The Qur’an calls Terrorism as worse than killing.

2:217: … Persecution or Terrorism is a crime far greater than killing…

And we have seen that during the exalted Prophet’s life, not a single non-combatant was harmed by Muslims.
“For the greatest benevolent Revolution in all history, in all the battles which were all fought in self-defense, the loss of life was minimal with 259 Muslims and 759 opponents getting slain, a total of 1,018. Not a single non-combatant, a child, a woman or the elderly was ever killed or harmed by Muslims.”

Mr Serge Trifkovic, Director, Rockford Institute Center For International Affairs: Quran is quite clear about the heavenly reward of a jihadist who falls fighting in the path of Allah. He will be granted instant access to paradise and the Muslim Paradise is an extremely sensual one. It is full of houris, black-eyed beauties, that will await the martyr and the gratification that follows is eminently unsuitable for family audience.

Answer: Sir, which nation won’t honor the valiant soldiers who lay their lives in the defense of their country?
The “Muslim” Paradise promises an excellent family life. Respectfully speaking, your statement, “Muslim Paradise is an extremely sensual one” hurts your own credibility. When you say, “It is full of houris, black-eyed beauties”, what is so sensual about it? Shall we remove ‘beauty’ from the dictionary or expunge ‘black eyes’ from literature? Which one, Sir?

By the way, Hoor is common gender meaning intelligent companions of spotless character. Hoor-un-‘Een = Excellent companions endowed with insight. Ahwar is the male gender and Haoorah, female.
You hurt your credibility beyond retrieval by further saying, “… and the gratification that follows is eminently unsuitable for family audience.”

Sir, did you think that only the non-Muslim Westerners would listen to these outrageous comments taking them at face value? Read the Qur’an again and again, and yet again, and you will fail to bring one word, one sentence that would be unsuitable for your/our sisters and daughters. On the contrary, we can show you many passages in the Bible that are eminently unsuitable for family audience, but that is not our subject here.

Mr Robert Spencer: The Quran contains no guarantee of paradise except for those who slay and are slain in the cause of Allah.