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Re: What is GOD?
By:Jawaid Ahmed
Date: Tuesday, 16 March 2010, 3:57 pm
In Response To: Re: What is GOD? (Badar Kanwar)

‘Having a God’ makes no difference to an atheist or believer; the atheist does not drop down dead when they say they do not believe in such a thing [except if they were a former Muslim and declared an apostate by a fanatic who then chops their head off]. It is about having the correct concept of God, since Muslims have brought Allah down to the human level that needs to be worshipped; He needs no worship, neither do we gain anything from the mindless rituals made up by all religions that do it. Just like everything develops in a positive manner under the right conditions, so too do we when we have the right instructions to follow.

There is a God, an Allah, the Only One, which our senses cannot perceive except through thought and reflection, logic and reason; not blind faith and indoctrination.

There is no such thing as belief without thought, this is blindness, but there is thoughtful belief. Understand in order to believe correctly.

We have had Surah Akhlas, now read the following:-

Surah 59 verses 22-24
22. He is God; there is no god besides Him, knower of all that is secret or open. He is the Instant and Sustaining Source of all Mercy and Kindness.
23. He is God; there is no god besides Him (no deity, no law-giver and none worthy of worship or obedience)! The King Supreme, the Impeccable, the Peace and the Source of all peace, the Guardian of faith and security, the Watcher over all things, the Majestic, All Powerful, the Superb. Glorious is God, far above what they ascribe unto Him.
24. He is God, the Supreme Creator, the Shaper out of nothing, the Designer. His Names are the most beautiful Names, and His alone are the attributes of perfection. All things in the heavens and the earth strive to manifest His glory. And He is Almighty, the Wise. (He runs the Universe in His Infinite power with His Infinite wisdom)

Surah 6 verses 101-107.
101 Wonderful Originator of the heavens and the earth; how can He have a son when He never chose for Himself a mate? He creates all things (and does not procreate 112:3.) and He is the Profound Knower of all things and events.
102 Such is God, your Sustainer. There is no god but He. No one is worthy of worship and obedience but He, the Creator of all things. Hence, obey Him! He is the Guardian of all and takes care of everything.
103 No vision can grasp Him while He grasps all vision. He is Unfathomable, Aware.
104 (You are not expected to know His Essence.) Say (O Prophet), “The manifest Enlightenment has come to you from your Lord. Whoever sees the Truth, does so for his own good. And whoever turns blind, hurts himself. I am not your keeper or guardian.”
105 Thus We give many facets to Our verses so that they may admit that you (O Prophet) have indeed taken all this to heart in the most excellent manner. And (through this method of Tasreef) We make it clear to people who use what they learn.
106 Follow what is revealed to you from your Lord. There is no god but He. And disregard those who associate others with Him. [21:20-22, 29:61-63]
107 We could have created all people without free will and they would then not associate any partners with Him. (But Guidance has been distinguished from straying 2:256.) And We have not appointed you (O Messenger) as their guardian, nor are you responsible for them.

Surah 3 verses 18-21
18. God Himself witnesses that there is no god but He and so do the angels (Universal forces), and men and women of science who stand firm in doing justice (to their efforts). There is no god but He, the Almighty, the Wise.
[21:22. ‘Ilm = Knowledge = Science. Qaaim-am-bil-qist = Who take the right stand = In the context, scientists who research in the right direction]
19.Remember that the System of Life approved by God is only Submission. Those who were given the Scripture, dissented from it through mutual rivalry and envy, after knowledge had come to them. If anyone rejects God's revelations, then God is Swift in reckoning.
[‘Ind-Allah = In the Sight of God = Approved by God = Before God. Deen = The System of Life = The Divinely Prescribed Way of Life = In a loose sense, ‘religion’, a ritualistic way of life = ‘Religion’ even with a capital R may scarcely come close in meaning to the term Deen. Al-Islam = Submission to God = Submission to Divine Will = Universal Peace achieved by submission to the One True God. 6:87]

Surah 2 verse 165
16. Yet, among mankind there are those who choose others as equals to God. They love them as they should love God. But the believers are staunch in their love for God. Oh, if only the transgressors could see themselves when they see the doom! They will realize then that all power belongs to God alone, and that God is Stern in punishment.
[3:30-31, 7:3. In the Quran, reverence or love of God invariably denotes obeying His Commands. Hubb = Love = Adoring by obeying = To revere by following commands. Nidd = False god = One who tries to play god. Example: Pharaoh tried to equal God 43:51. Andaad = Those who play god = Political tyrants = Religious leaders who issue edicts contrary to the Divine Revelation. God being stern in punishment means His Law of Requital favouring none]

20. If they argue with you (O Messenger), tell them, “I have submitted to God; I and those who follow me.” Say to the People of the Scripture, and to those who claim to have no Scripture, “Would you submit (to God)?” If they submit, then they have been guided but if they turn away, then your duty is only to convey the Message. God is Seer of His servants.
21. Those who reject the Message of God, and wrongfully kill the prophets or their Mission by mixing Truth with falsehood, and kill the advocates of justice in the society; promise them grievous retribution.

Surah 24 verse 35
35 God is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The example of His Light (the Quran) is that of a lamp that is placed inside a niche enclosed in glass that shines like a radiant star. This lamp is kindled from a blessed tree - olive - neither of the East nor of the West. Its Light issues forth in all directions. The oil glows by itself even though no fire has touched it. Light upon Light. God guides to His Light anyone who seeks Guidance. And God sets forth allegories for mankind. And God is Knower of all things. [God being Light = Life-giving, sustaining and guiding Power of the Universe. And Quran is the Light of God. 5:15, 20:51, 41:42, 42:52]

God is a word bandied about without thought to its true meaning; human images of a ‘Santa Claus’ figure sitting on a throne, or blue faced humans, monkeys, etc. which only make a mockery of the truth, but the joke is on us.
For further reading, here is part of the God entry from Wikipedia:-

God is the English name given to a singular omnipotent being in theistic and deistic religions (and other belief systems) who is either the sole deity in monotheism, or a principal deity in polytheism.[1]
God is most often conceived of as the supernatural creator and overseer of the universe. Theologians have ascribed a variety of attributes to the many different conceptions of God. The most common among these include omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, omnibenevolence (perfect goodness), divine simplicity, and eternal and necessary existence. God has also been conceived as being incorporeal, a personal being, the source of all moral obligation, and the "greatest conceivable existent".[1] These attributes were all supported to varying degrees by the early Jewish, Christian and Muslim theologian philosophers, including Maimonides,[2] Augustine of Hippo,[2] and Al-Ghazali,[3] respectively. Many notable medieval philosophers and modern philosophers developed arguments for the existence of God.[3] Many notable philosophers and intellectuals have, in contrast, developed arguments against the existence of God.

God (word)
The earliest written form of the Germanic word god comes from the 6th century Christian Codex Argenteus. The English word itself is derived from the Proto-Germanic * ǥuđan. Most linguists agree that the reconstructed Proto-Indo-European form * ǵhu-tó-m was based on the root * ǵhau(ə)-, which meant either "to call" or "to invoke".[4] The Germanic words for god were originally neuter—applying to both genders—but during the process of the Christianization of the Germanic peoples from their indigenous Germanic paganism, the word became a masculine syntactic form.[5]
The capitalized form God was first used in Ulfilas's Gothic translation of the New Testament, to represent the Greek Theos. In the English language, the capitalization continues to represent a distinction between monotheistic "God" and "gods" in polytheism.[6][7] In spite of significant differences between religions such as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, the Bahá'í Faith, and Judaism, the term "God" remains an English translation common to all. The name may signify any related or similar monotheistic deities, such as the early monotheism of Akhenaten and Zoroastrianism.
When used in English within a community with a common monotheistic background, "God" always refers to the deity they share. Those with a background in different Abrahamic religions will usually agree on the deity they share, while still differing on details of belief and doctrine—they will disagree about attributes of [the] God, rather than thinking in terms of "my God" and "your (different) God".

Names of God
Main article: Names of God
Conceptions of God can vary widely, but the word God in English—and its counterparts in other languages, such as Latinate Deus, Greek Θεός, Slavic Bog, Sanskrit Ishvara, or Arabic Allah—are normally used for any and all conceptions. The same holds for Hebrew El, but in Judaism, God is also given a proper name, the tetragrammaton (usually reconstructed as Yahweh or YHWH), believed to be a mark of the religion's henotheistic origins. In many translations of the Bible, when the word "LORD" is in all capitals, it signifies that the word represents the tetragrammaton.[8] God may also be given a proper name in monotheistic currents of Hinduism which emphasize the personal nature of God, with early references to his name as Krishna-Vasudeva in Bhagavata or later Vishnu and Hari.[9] For aboriginal Guanches (Tenerife, Spain) God is called Achamán.[10]
It is difficult to distinguish between proper names and epitheta of God, such as the names and titles of Jesus in the New Testament, the names of God in the Qur'an, and the various lists of the thousand names of Hindu gods and List of titles and names of Krishna in Vaishnavism.
Throughout the Hebrew and Christian Bible there are many names for God that portray his (God is always characterised as male) nature and character. One of them is elohim[11][12], which has been argued to mean “strong one”[citation needed], among other things, although the etymology is debated and obscure. Another one is El Shaddai, meaning “God Almighty”.[13] A third notable name is El Elyon, which means “The Most High God”.[14]

Conceptions of God
Conceptions of God vary widely. Theologians and philosophers have studied countless conceptions of God since the dawn of civilization. The Abrahamic conceptions of God include the trinitarian view of Christians, the Kabbalistic definition of Jewish mysticism, and the Islamic concept of God. The dharmic religions differ in their view of the divine: views of God in Hinduism vary by region, sect, and caste, ranging from monotheistic to polytheistic to atheistic; the view of God in Buddhism is almost non-theist. In modern times, some more abstract concepts have been developed, such as process theology and open theism. Conceptions of God held by individual believers vary so widely that there is no clear consensus on the nature of God.[15] The contemporaneous French philosopher Michel Henry has however proposed a phenomenological approach and definition of God as phenomenological essence of Life
Stephen Jay Gould proposed an approach dividing the world of philosophy into what he called "non-overlapping magisteria" (NOMA). In this view, questions of the supernatural, such as those relating to the existence and nature of God, are non-empirical and are the proper domain of theology. The methods of science should then be used to answer any empirical question about the natural world, and theology should be used to answer questions about ultimate meaning and moral value. In this view, the perceived lack of any empirical footprint from the magisterium of the supernatural onto natural events makes science the sole player in the natural world.[28]
Another view, advanced by Richard Dawkins, is that the existence of God is an empirical question, on the grounds that "a universe with a god would be a completely different kind of universe from one without, and it would be a scientific difference."[17]

Carl Sagan argued that the doctrine of a Creator of the Universe was difficult to prove or disprove and that the only conceivable scientific discovery that could challenge it would be an infinitely old universe.[29]

[My comment on Mr Sagan's quote; since the Universe had a beginning, it proves a Creator]

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Jawaid Ahmed -- Tuesday, 16 March 2010, 3:57 pm
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Badar Kanwar -- Tuesday, 16 March 2010, 7:53 pm
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Naushad P. -- Wednesday, 17 March 2010, 7:56 am
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