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No Goat, Ishmael's Real Momentous Sacrifice!!!
By:Firasat
Date: Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 3:20 pm

Dear Jawaid and all brothers and sisters SA

My younger brother has the same name, spelled Javed. You are brilliant. You are describing the sacrifice of Abraham leaving the comfort of priesthood. Buddha left the comfort of prince hood, and future kingdom.

Moreover, we are not discussing the sacrifice of Abraham, only that of his only son (at that moment). It is surprising, that even the Jewish literature says the words "his only son". They still insist that it was the Issac. The excuse is that Ishmael was illegitimate, and second argument is that he was already thrown out in the wilderness and was no longer the member of the family.

The sacrifice of Ishmael was of the nature which could not have been given by Issac and could not have been asked from Issac, because he did not have it to give. According to the Quran, Issac was conceived, but not born yet. Even if he was born, available, teenager, even then he did not have it to give.

I am sure by now you know what I am talking about. I am sure Dr. Shabbir will figure it out. It is my understanding and I have not seen it anywhere promoted by any Muslim scholar, and I wonder why not. Here is my understanding.

According to the well established system of the time. The seat of the father belonged to his eldest son and his progeny. That was the law of of the time. Ishmael is being asked to give this momentous sacrifice of himself and his progeny in favor of still unborn child and accept to depart to uncertainties. All he would be left with is a promise for the future and he will have to labor to start build a new nation and the clan of Hashim. By the way one of the sacred name of creator in Hebrew is Hashem.

Nothing else make sense, mere migration to the Makkah does not amount to momentous. According to the Ramayana, Ram was sent out as well, though for a shorter time. As I mentioned before, the blood sacrifice of children was norm and, unfortunately still is. It is just done willingly mostly by teenagers and young adults all over Pakistan and elsewhere in the name of jihad.

Firasat

Messages In This Thread

AN ISLAMIC PERSPECTIVE AGAINST ANIMAL SACRIFICE
Mubashir -- Monday, 30 November 2009, 3:15 pm
Re: AN ISLAMIC PERSPECTIVE AGAINST ANIMAL SACRIFIC
Firasat -- Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 4:21 am
Re: AN ISLAMIC PERSPECTIVE AGAINST ANIMAL SACRIFIC
Jawaid Ahmed -- Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 10:56 am
No Goat, Ishmael's Real Momentous Sacrifice!!!
Firasat -- Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 3:20 pm
Re: No Goat, Ishmael's Real Momentous Sacrifice!!
Dr. Shabbir -- Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 6:14 pm
Re: No Goat, Ishmael's Real Momentous Sacrifice!!
Ardee -- Tuesday, 1 December 2009, 9:06 pm