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Re: Prayer for Obama
By:Umar
Date: Sunday, 15 November 2009, 1:09 pm
In Response To: Re: Prayer for Obama (ansari shakur)

Salaam Br. Ansari,

You said, “GOD does not intervene in our affairs PERIOD. We are the masters of our destiny”.

That’s the point I was trying to make all along. God helps those who help themselves, and the ones who are helping themselves the most are the Americans. It’s as simple as that.

Let’s see how…

You have referred to an “end game” and the dirty little tricks the US is pulling off in order to win control of Central Asia. Well, the “end game” in question is really the extension of The Great Game that has been on since the early 1800s. The British and the Russians were competing then; now the Americans have replaced the British (with the latter in a supporting role), and the Chinese are in the fray too.

The hawkish US attitude you refer to is not new. We have to remember that American foreign policy has been guided by hawkishness ever since World War II. Hans Morgenthau’s “Politics Among Nations”, the work with which the Realist school of International Relations began, heralded a paradigm shift in American diplomacy. This was unmistakably proven early on by the adoption of the Truman Doctrine, the policy of Containment, and of course the Marshall Plan. In recent times, it was reinforced by Francis Fukuyama’s (in)famous essay “The End of History?”, Samuel Huntington’s “The Clash of Civilizations”, and the rise of the Neoconservative movement. This school calls for a no-holds-barred approach to achieving dominance among nations in the world.

In such a worldview, the Americans see themselves as operating in a hostile environment. And who can call them wrong? Remember, the Eastern Bloc was breathing down their backs not too long ago. Not two decades have passed since the USSR’s collapse, and not only have the Russians self-resurrected, but there is a new, significant player on the scene: China. It’s a simple dog-eat-dog world theory: if the American’s don’t seize the mantle, the Russians or the Chinese will. It’s the US’ smarts that they are in Afghanistan before anybody else. (Again, view this issue dispassionately. They may be wrong for being in Afghanistan, but remember that they are competing not in a peaceful world, but in a hostile environment that doesn’t accord second chances to anyone. Survival of the fittest: it’s the greatest truism known to man.)

Now here is the main point: why have the Americans, and the Russians before them, been audacious enough to attack Afghanistan and occupy it? Because the Afghans have continually left themselves susceptible to such attacks and can’t defend themselves, that’s why. Why can’t they defend themselves? Because God doesn’t help those who don’t help themselves. (Qur’an, 13:11)

Wassalaam
Umar

PS: In this thread, I haven’t at all meant to come across as a fan of the US. People who know me know this for certain. There was a time when kids used to say “U for Umar, U for USA” and I picked fights with them! I have only tried to present a realistic picture of the world in the above thread.

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Dear Dr. Saheb,

Thanks for your kind introduction, and for letting us know more about Br. Ansari and Br. Razi!

Umar

Messages In This Thread

Prayer for Obama
ansari shakur -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 2:10 am
Re: Prayer for Obama
Umar -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 3:04 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
Sidqi -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 6:41 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
ansari shakur -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 9:44 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
ansari shakur -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 9:40 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
Umar -- Saturday, 14 November 2009, 9:10 am
Re: Prayer for Obama
Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 14 November 2009, 9:54 am
Benevolent Masters
Razi -- Saturday, 14 November 2009, 11:05 am
Re: Benevolent Masters
Umar -- Saturday, 14 November 2009, 1:44 pm
It's we who make up this forum.
Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 14 November 2009, 3:29 pm
Re: It's we who make up this forum.
Razi -- Sunday, 15 November 2009, 9:18 am
Re: Benevolent Masters
Razi -- Sunday, 15 November 2009, 9:24 am
Re: Prayer for Obama
ansari shakur -- Saturday, 14 November 2009, 10:09 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
Umar -- Sunday, 15 November 2009, 1:09 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
ansari shakur -- Sunday, 15 November 2009, 4:25 pm
Re: Prayer for Obama
Razi -- Monday, 16 November 2009, 9:30 am
Re: Prayer for Obama
Sidqi -- Monday, 16 November 2009, 8:11 pm