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Re:Maj. Hasan whatever, myth of educating them.
By:Firasat
Date: Monday, 9 November 2009, 9:46 pm

Excellent,

Brother Sidqi, we all need your insight. Thanks. There are few aspects to be considered and worked upon.

Firstly how do we give them better education, jobs etc and will it work. Did not Maj. Hasan had excellent education and job. Did he have any poverty problem??

Secondly, education and jobs are plenty in USA and rest of the western world. We still have discrimination, bigotry, fundamentalism, hatred, and mayhem, not to the scale but it is there.

No matter how many rounds we take, it is still a circle, you come back to starting point over and over, may be a little better dressed and a bit more eloquent. Human knowledge does go in circle. We have seen only few linear shots in history. As long as the circles are ever expanding spirals, it is ok.

We have to take the guidance from the Allah, if we do not want to ride Mary go Round. I hope few of us move to the action level sooner than later. Let us discuss how to get to educating "them".

Wait a minute, how can you educate them, when they consider the education evil and destroy the existing schools. We are back to the starting point. let us see what Prophet did, under the guidance of Allah. When the powerful wealthy, warring, leaders of the Mecca did not stop preventing the free flow of Quranic education to the masses. Decision to engage them was made. It was only after the myth of the power and influence of the Maccan and other such leaders was broken, the forward linear leap happened.

Take Pakistan for example, few cells of sickness (as you equated to) have terrorized the masses of the tribal, and other poverty stricken areas of Pakistan. Brother Sidqi, the myth of these cells of disease has to be broken to reach to the masses. I wish what the Pakistan army was forced to do now, it had done a long time ago. These Kuffars of Pakistan and elsewhere, like the kuffars of Macca with similar Arabic names have to be subdued and the leadership removed surgically.

Next job is to dismantle the myth of Sharia and the rituals. I know that this last part will not go well with your concepts. Did not the prophet of Allah broke the existing rituals of the Kabah. Did he replace the them with new rituals. Did he?

We need to find out what happens when one set of ritual is replaced by another set. Again let us go back to the Islamic history. We see that when it happens, the sects are created, not a new ideology. If he had only replaced the old rituals of Kabah by new rituals, a new sect of the Maccan Pagans would have been the result, not Islam.

Ek khat aur namabar ke aate aate likh chodon
Mujhe maloom hai woh likhege kya jawab main

Dr Shabbir, correction please.

Dr. Shabbir is doing an excellent job of what he is doing. Few others have to step forward to take other step. those step may not be glamorous, but are essential.

Firasat

Messages In This Thread

Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Friday, 6 November 2009, 5:22 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Courtney -- Friday, 6 November 2009, 5:04 pm
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M.Irtaza -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, 8:42 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 4:57 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Sidqi -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 6:35 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 1:16 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Sidqi -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 4:22 am
Re:Maj. Hasan whatever, myth of educating them.
Firasat -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 9:46 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Mubashir -- Friday, 6 November 2009, 5:26 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Damon -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, 5:40 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 5:14 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Umar -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 2:32 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 8:50 pm
Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Dr. Shabbir -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 2:27 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Umar -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, 1:14 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Jawaid Ahmed -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, 3:13 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Dr. Shabbir -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, 10:24 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Umar -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 3:32 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Damon -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 4:10 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 8:32 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 10:58 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Dr. Shabbir -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 9:24 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Chibuzo Ohanaja -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 3:44 am