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Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
By:Firasat
Date: Sunday, 8 November 2009, 4:57 am

Mr. Irtaza,

What an excuse, and then place all of the burden on Allah, "Allah knows best"

Murder is not and can never be an answer to being in a mis adjusted employment. No matter how many excuses a Khalifiya, or any other Mullah, gives it will remain an excuse. He had an option to ask for counseling at the military medical services, but he choose to get counseling form different Imams at Masajids. Now those Imams are seeing in the rear view mirror.

That major was crazy, mentally sick, or whatever, that is not as much a problem as the excuses given by Mullahs like you, Mr. Irtiza. Just because you are the follower of Khalifa, does not mean that you are not a typical, a particular religious ideology paddling, narrow minded, may be a beardless Mullah.

Excuses, excuses and more excuses from every Imam, leader, or chairman, of all of the mosques.

It is time to own it and say that yes, our Hadiths, our numerous books, our holier than thou concept without merit, and many of our Jumah khutbas are violent. Our religious schools at most of the mosques in USA do not prepare the children to be multi cultural and tolerant. Majority of "practicing" Muslims in the west are tolerant by design, not by choice, simply because of the numeric situation. Are the same "Good Practicing Religious,Saum o Salat Paband" Muslims tolerant in the so called Muslim countries? Just because Mr Khalifa downplayed the Hadiths, does not mean that he did not started a new creed (sect). One evil replaced by another will still remain evil. Call it Namaz or contact prayer, it still remains ritual and as long as we are expecting rewards in the live court of God through Namaz or contact prayers, there is going to be no progress and we will not get any respect from the communities of the world.

Most of the excuses and sorrows expressed by the so called leaders seem hollow. Our Masajids and centers and the leadership, and the congregation of these institutes is not investing in the communities, neighborhoods, cities, and country, we are all benefiting from. Owning a gas station or Holiday Inn is not investing in the community.

My local Masjid has interfaith meetings, and they invite some selected people during Ramdan. Sometimes church groups ask to come and are invited. All of these meetings are also a show of "we are better than you" attitude, and all of these opportunities are wasted by tuning them into the Dawah excercise. Hence we have a huge trust deficit.

Do we ever do anything just for the sake of doing good. How many of our very decorated, cash rich centers, run free food programs for needy, except few run my indigenous Muslims who had a background of it for being associated with church programs.

One simple question, can any Muslim go to any Church and say that he needs help with food, electric bill, or rent. Answer is yes, if the church does not have the facility they will guide you to the right place and even make phone calls. There is 95% chance that they will not even ask for your name and will not try to convert you on the spot.

Now go and send a non Muslim to a mosque asking for help. He may get some help, but a lecture on the virtues of being a Muslim as well.

No excuses, and no repetitive quotes from the Quran or anywhere else is going to repair and heel the constantly eroding trust deficit. Actions speak louder.

Still fuming,
Firasat

Messages In This Thread

Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Friday, 6 November 2009, 5:22 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Courtney -- Friday, 6 November 2009, 5:04 pm
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M.Irtaza -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, 8:42 pm
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Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 4:57 am
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Sidqi -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 6:35 pm
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Firasat -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 1:16 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Sidqi -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 4:22 am
Re:Maj. Hasan whatever, myth of educating them.
Firasat -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 9:46 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Mubashir -- Friday, 6 November 2009, 5:26 pm
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Damon -- Saturday, 7 November 2009, 5:40 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 5:14 am
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Umar -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 2:32 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 8:50 pm
Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Dr. Shabbir -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 2:27 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Umar -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, 1:14 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Jawaid Ahmed -- Tuesday, 10 November 2009, 3:13 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Dr. Shabbir -- Wednesday, 11 November 2009, 10:24 pm
Re: Umar: raison de etre vs rai·son d'etre :-)
Umar -- Thursday, 12 November 2009, 3:32 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Damon -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 4:10 pm
Re: Murderer Maj. Hasan is a "Pious" Namazi
Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 8:32 pm
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Firasat -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 10:58 pm
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Dr. Shabbir -- Sunday, 8 November 2009, 9:24 pm
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Chibuzo Ohanaja -- Monday, 9 November 2009, 3:44 am