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Re: Dr. Shabbir’s position on "Haqeeqate Saum"
By:Dr. Shabbir
Date: Monday, 26 October 2009, 3:12 pm
In Response To: Re: Dr. Shabbir’s position on "Haqeeqate Saum" (Jawaid Ahmed)

Dear Jawaid Saheb,

Thank you for a detailed, rational and convincing response.

QXP respectfully heals Exposition of the great Allama at numerous places.

Two out of the nearly 600 examples:

2:223 Remember that women in the society are the guardians of your future generations, just as a garden keeps the seeds and turns them into flowering plants. So, whenever you meet with women socially, treat them with respect, keeping the aforementioned principle in mind. This conduct will go a long way to insure the betterment of the future generations. Send forth good today for the sake of tomorrow. Be mindful of God and know that you will, one day, face Him. O Messenger! Give good news to the believers. [Nisaa = Women, not wives]

7:143 When Moses arrived at the appointed time, and his Lord spoke to him, Moses said, "My Lord! Give me the power to better perceive You." His Lord said, "You will not perceive Me unless you look pensively at the mountain. If it remains firm in its place, then shall you perceive Me." (You will realize that even a single mountain is made of countless particles that were scattered as dust and it is your Lord Who has made it stand firm.) Thus did his Lord choose for the mountain to be a manifestation of His glory. Moses pictured the mountain as dust and was stunned! When he recovered his senses, he said, "Infinite are You in Your glory! I turn to you repentant and I am among the foremost believers.”

[The 7,359 feet high Mount Sinai is standing to this day. Therefore, contrary to popular literal translation of this verse, its understanding in allegorical terms is preferred. Also, a Prophet of God is least likely to make a demand to see God in physical form. See 2:55, 2:118, 7:155. Now let us suppose that it was some other mountain that had crumbled to dust. In that case, the place would most certainly have become the greatest historical relic of all times. As I have stated in preface to QXPi, the earliest Tafseers of the Qur’an were written centuries after the exalted Prophet. By then the Ajami (Zoroastrian-Persian, alien) politics and culture dominated the Islamic Empire centered in Baghdad. It is a hard fact of the historical dynamics that the rulers' political supremacy profoundly affects the culture and language of the entire nation. Just as an example, Khalifa Haroon Rasheed's mother Khaizran was a Zoroastrian (Parsi or Maggian), and so were his wives. Khaizran’s son, the succeeding Khalifa Mamoon's wives were also Ajami. Even the Baramakah, the viziers of the Empire were Ajamis. So, the Zoroa-Persian concepts left a very heavy impact on the Arabic language, giving Ajami (alien) concepts even to the Qur’anic themes and terminology - So much so that they became Ma’roof (generally recognized and well-accepted). Let us see how our clergy handled this verse. They had the unchangeable Qur’an before them, but the concepts they adopted were foreign and pliable like wax. A Hadith was concocted in the name of the exalted Messenger. Here it is as related by a recent Mullah: "The Prophet, after reciting this verse (7:143), placed his thumb on the little finger and said that only this much of the light of God had touched the mountain. Therefore, only that much portion (the size of a little finger) of the mountain was affected."
- Ma'arifil Qur’an, Mufti Aazam (the Chief Mufti) of Pakistan, ‘Maulana’ Mufti Muhammad Shafi; tafseer of 7:143 vol 4 - quoting Anas bin Malik from the ancient Tirmizi, Hanbal and Hakam. Whoever made up this Hadith forgot that the wrong Ajami translations talk of the whole mountain crumbling to dust!]

I did not incorporate my understanding of SAUM in QXP for lack of conviction.

Your response further weakens my understanding. Another round of reflection promised.

Thanks again!

Messages In This Thread

Dr. Shabbir’s position on "Haqeeqate Saum"
Umar -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 10:34 am
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Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 2:47 pm
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Mohammad Abdul Shukoor -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 10:15 pm
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Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 11:05 pm
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mshukoor@hotmail.com -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, 5:40 pm
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Dr. Shabbir -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, 6:08 pm
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Zubair -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 5:37 pm
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Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 8:08 pm
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Jawaid Ahmed -- Monday, 26 October 2009, 2:16 pm
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Dr. Shabbir -- Monday, 26 October 2009, 3:12 pm
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UmeAimon -- Thursday, 29 October 2009, 8:34 am
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Mehnaz -- Thursday, 29 October 2009, 2:10 pm
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Jawaid Ahmed -- Thursday, 29 October 2009, 2:31 pm