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Re: Outrageous Post
By:Abdun Nur
Date: Monday, 26 October 2009, 10:13 am
In Response To: Re: Outrageous Post (Faiz)

Most ingrained patterns of thought are easily defended within the mind of the host, and I notice that within your pattern of thought it is ok to insult, and ridicule another perspective without any investigation in its truth, simply through conjecture. I have no problem with that, it is to be expected, I have on the other hand noticed that if the attitude is returned there is outrage, a perspective that allows insult and ridicule of others while is outraged by its reflection; so insults and derogatory comments I will not longer return, as it is counter productive, I will comment but not reflect the unwitting tone of people like yourself.

The concept of Allah predates Muhammad, it stretches back in time as you say, if we examine the claim Christians and Jews follow the same belief in Allah,; Judaic belief has a God called "Yahweh" and the Christians have a God called "Jehovah" being a translation of the word Yahweh, they contend. However, it is significant that "Allah" is clearly NOT a personal name, while the Hebrew Tetragrammaton clearly *IS* a personal name for their Almighty God.

This is interesting as they worship a personification, hence the concept of a human God on Earth, are you, as they, waiting for a human God to return to Earth Faiz?

Arabic, like many of the languages of the world, gives male and female gender to nouns, if as you suggest Allah is a proper noun it would personify Allah, transforming the concept of Allah into a Christian Jewish God concept.

Consider the word God, this is masculine, you say no, the counterpart of a God is a Goddess, so in your version of reality Allah could have a wife?

This is the reason the Shahada exists, There is No God. As its foundation, you of course refute Allah’s contention?

As for Brother Badar’s translation, you call it ugly and garbage, a brave thing to say against the Qur’an, I hope you don’t one day regret such an accusation, I fear you will. Have you taken the time to examine the Surah’s translated, with a clean mind, consider the content of the Surah’s, the flow of the Ayahs within each Surah, the logic and reason they contain? Or have you dismissed them out of hand, after reading a few lines, or nothing of them?

Please explain further this mathematical proof that has been presented to you, from either myself, or Badar, that you state, we used to prove Allah is not a name, I wouldn‘t want to accuse you of being a liar falsely?

I’m interested to read this information.

Messages In This Thread

Was there really a burden on Prophet's chest?
Badar -- Friday, 23 October 2009, 10:40 pm
Re: Was there really a burden on Prophet's chest?
Dr. Shabbir -- Friday, 23 October 2009, 11:49 pm
Re: THIS IS NO TRANSLATION, SORRY!
Saadia Khan, Norway -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 5:34 pm
Re: THIS IS NO TRANSLATION, SORRY!
Abdun Nur -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 6:08 pm
IT IS NONSENSE, SORRY!
Saadia Khan, Norway -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 7:06 pm
Re: IT IS NONSENSE, SORRY!
Abdun Nur -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 7:39 pm
Re: IT IS NONSENSE, SORRY!
Saadia Khan, Norway -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 8:21 pm
Re: IT IS NONSENSE, SORRY!
Behroz Batliwalla -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 8:46 pm
Re: IT IS NONSENSE, SORRY!
Abdun Nur -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 9:04 pm
Outrageous Post - edited
Moderators -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 10:50 pm
Re: Outrageous Post
Zubair -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 11:17 pm
Re: Outrageous Post
Moderators -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 11:28 pm
Re: Outrageous Post
Faiz -- Monday, 26 October 2009, 5:30 am
Re: Outrageous Post
Abdun Nur -- Monday, 26 October 2009, 10:13 am
Re: Outrageous Post
Sidqi -- Monday, 26 October 2009, 11:15 pm
Re: Outrageous Post
Abdun Nur / Moderators -- Tuesday, 27 October 2009, 12:30 am
Re: Was there really a burden on Prophet's chest?
Sidqi -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 7:03 pm
Re: THIS IS NONSENSE!
Kamran Sheikh -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 7:21 pm
Re: THIS IS NONSENSE!
Moderators -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 8:36 pm
Re: THIS IS NONSENSE!
Umar -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, 7:37 am
Re: THIS IS NONSENSE!
Khadija Husain -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, 1:24 pm
Re: THIS IS NONSENSE!
Badar -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, 2:35 pm
Re: THIS IS NONSENSE!
Dr. Shabbir -- Sunday, 25 October 2009, 3:04 pm
Does God hate His creation?
Zubair -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 9:46 pm
Reflect on it with patience
Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 9:00 pm
Re: Was there really a burden on Prophet's chest?
Mohammad Abdul Shukoor -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 8:54 pm