Our Beacon Forum

Re: question about hadeeses
By:UmeAimon
Date: Thursday, 15 October 2009, 9:24 am
In Response To: Post unclear - Moderators (Sidqi)

Salam

Here we go one more time. :)
Why we are not supposed to take hadith WITH Quran to understand Islam?

Ask yourself and others no 2 Islamists these questions and try to find honest answers.

Quran is suppose to be THE JUDGE NOT hadith, isn’t that’s what Quran says to take only this BOOK as a judge ??
Do hadithes judge hadith from Quran or are they judging Quran by Hadiths?

Quran Declares itself to be complete, unadulterated and "NEEDS NO EXPLAINATION". Do hadith followers believe in this part of Quran? Or do they choose to disregard all such verses according to their convenience (not because they don't understand the message only because they don't want to undersand the way it is, isn't this the case?)
AND Do hadith writers claim any of the above things about hadiths?

Quran is guaranteed by Allah SWT Himself NOT hadith, or is it?
Does Allah guaranteed any of the hadith writers or their writings or is it you (followers of hadith and other guarantors) who will do that on the Day of Judgment?
(...and we don't need another hadith to prove its own worth, that would be silly wouldn’t it?)

On the contrary Allah has warned against hadiths that will take people away from Quran. Isn't this what hadisees are doing, taking people away from Quran and towards these man made hadiths? (Thats why all they quote night and day is hadith and avoid QURAN as much as possible!!)

How do you know that all the hadith literature is even complete?
And if you cannot guarantee it to be complete and know it can even be contaminated then how can you expect to explain something that declares itself to be a complete guide, uncontaminated and that does not need any explanation, from something that is not even complete?

Like for any hadith what is the guarantee there did not exist another hadith that cancelled the first one and which cannot be found in the hadith literature now and was destroyed somehow???

Please get the answers for these questions to satisfy you. You don’t need to answer us as we already are satisfied 

Only if you can’t then I’ll tell you why you can’t and what the answers are.

jazakAllah

UmeAimon

Messages In This Thread

question about hadeeses
aalima Koki Kaukab, Balam -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 6:52 am
Re:question about hadeeses
Shahzad -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 6:55 am
Re: question about hadeeses
Afsara Sheikh -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 7:32 am
Re: question about hadeeses
Jawaid Ahmed -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 8:24 am
Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Aslam Ansari -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 8:50 am
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Dr. Shabbir -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 9:39 am
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Aslam Ansari -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 2:14 pm
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Dr. Shabbir -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 2:20 pm
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
shahalam -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 3:35 pm
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
UmeAimon -- Thursday, 15 October 2009, 8:11 am
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Dr. Shabbir -- Thursday, 15 October 2009, 9:18 am
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Umar -- Saturday, 17 October 2009, 7:43 am
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Autif Sayyed -- Thursday, 22 October 2009, 6:14 pm
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Umar -- Saturday, 24 October 2009, 9:26 am
Re: Dr A.Q. Khan: The Moon Did Split
Dr. Shabbir -- Saturday, 17 October 2009, 8:11 am
Re: question about hadeeses
Saadia Khan -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 1:50 pm
Re: question about hadeeses
Aalima Koki Kaukab, Balam -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 5:24 pm
Post unclear - Moderators
Sidqi -- Wednesday, 14 October 2009, 6:45 pm
Re: question about hadeeses
UmeAimon -- Thursday, 15 October 2009, 9:24 am