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Re: Why I gave up Namaz
By:Badar
Date: Thursday, 1 October 2009, 2:26 pm
In Response To: Re: Why I gave up Namaz (Razi)

Dear Mr Razi, if by reading current translations you get it all. Indeed, I must say your among exceptionally blessed ones. However, the reality is evident and contrary every where. People are not even sure weather our creator wants us to be his worshipers and servants or not be.

Here is what I understand so far with my little understanding. [Edited: Experimental translation through Lane's]

Surah 109: 1 قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ

Wake you, lethargic in unwise actions, the ones hiding the sufficient and fulfilling knowledge; due to the denial of facts and the ingratitude of all benevolent acts.

Surah 109: 2 لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ

Neither are you created a slave, nor, to seek to be slaves and worshipers.
Surah 109: 3 وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ

Have not I made you complete, potentially perfect and free from deficiency? Are not the ones being worshiped, similar to their worshipers.

Surah 109: 4 وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ

Neither do I want servers and worshipers, nor you to worship or become slaves. This is to be complete, potentially perfect and free from limitations.

Surah 109: 5 وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ

Have not I made you complete, potentially perfect and free from deficiency? Are not ones being worshiped, similar to their worshipers.

Surah 109: 6 لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ

Then enough is enough of subjugation and being in a state of low prestige and low esteem. You hold full command (of your actions) when in subjugation, so in a state of low prestige and low esteem.

I can bring more evidence from Al-kitab. But for ones really endowed with reason and logic. The above should sufice.

Badar

Messages In This Thread

Why I gave up Namaz
Zubair -- Tuesday, 29 September 2009, 11:56 pm
Re: Why I gave up Namaz
Anwer Suri -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, 4:34 am
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Badar -- Wednesday, 30 September 2009, 3:51 pm
Re: Why I gave up Namaz
Razi -- Thursday, 1 October 2009, 6:43 am
Re: Why I gave up Namaz
Badar -- Thursday, 1 October 2009, 2:26 pm
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Razi -- Thursday, 1 October 2009, 5:04 pm
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Behroz Batliwalla -- Thursday, 1 October 2009, 7:37 pm
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