Our Beacon Forum

Re: Ismailism
By:Jawaid Ahmed
Date: Thursday, 24 September 2009, 9:32 am
In Response To: Re: Ismailism (Akbarally to Nanwalla)

Surah 43
20. ("Ah!") they say, "If it had been the will of (Allah) Most Gracious, we should not have worshipped such (deities)!" Of that they have no knowledge! They do nothing but lie!
21. What! Have We given them a Book before this, to which they are holding fast?
22. Nay! They say: "We found our fathers following a certain religion, and we do guide ourselves by their footsteps."
23. Just in the same way, whenever We sent a Warner before thee to any people, the wealthy ones among them said: "We found our fathers following a certain religion, and we will certainly follow in their footsteps."
24. He said: "What! Even if I brought you better guidance than that which ye found your fathers following?" They said: "For us, we deny that ye (prophets) are sent (on a mission at all)."
25. So We exacted retribution from them: now see what was the end of those who rejected (Truth)!

Surah 2
6. As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.
7. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).
8. Of the people there are some who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day;" but they do not (really) believe.
9. Fain would they deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realise (it) not!
10. In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease: And grievous is the penalty they (incur), because they are false (to themselves).
11. When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!"
12. Of a surety, they are the ones who make mischief, but they realise (it) not.
13. When it is said to them: "Believe as the others believe:" They say: "Shall we believe as the fools believe?" Nay, of a surety they are the fools, but they do not know.
14. When they meet those who believe, they say: "We believe;" but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say: "We are really with you: We (were) only jesting."
15. Allah will throw back their mockery on them, and give them rope in their trespasses; so they will wander like blind ones (To and fro).
16. These are they who have bartered Guidance for error: but their traffic is profitless, and they have lost true direction,
17. Their similitude is that of a man who kindled a fire; when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in utter darkness. So they could not see.
18. Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path).

When we deviate from Allah, when we accept personalities ahead of the All-Knowing, then we become the above and do not realise it. No matter what you believe, if you think you are right then you do not need to shout or insult one another. Your proofs should be sufficient to counter falsehood, if that is what you believe.

“Oh you who have been disgraced by wrong belief”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......

Messages In This Thread

Zeenie Nanwalla to Akbarally Meherally -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, 8:16 pm
Re: Ismailism
Akbarally to Nanwalla -- Wednesday, 23 September 2009, 8:20 pm
Re: Ismailism
Jawaid Ahmed -- Thursday, 24 September 2009, 9:32 am